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Old 07-21-2008, 04:01 PM
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But even with the issue of war crimes, are nations really accountable to other nations?
I'd have to vote "yes". (Shock! Surprise!)

If the choice is between responsibility and accountability versus every-man-for-himself I will obviously choose the former. Things work best when there are checks and balances...nations included.

I am firmly in favor of a very high degree of sovereignty. But, just like libertarians constantly tell me, freedom and rights end when they negatively impact someone else. How Iranians treat their adulterers is one thing, not abiding by things like treaties is something else.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:23 PM
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Am I to take it that adultery in Iran is a crime committed almost exclusively by women?
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Well, war crimes is a bit different because we're talking about a nation's treatment of non-citizens (like prisoners of war). What the Nazis did to the Jews wouldn't really be war crimes because there was no Jewish nation for Germany to be at war with. This was a group of German citizens (except in those countries that Germany invaded, then the issue of war crimes comes into play). But even with the issue of war crimes, are nations really accountable to other nations?
No they are not. The Nazis were ultimately tried for "crimes against humanity", a category that did not exist when they committed them.
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Old 07-21-2008, 09:43 PM
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Yes, what shocking news. Iran's culture is 1000 years behind us. How dare we impose our presence to Westernize them!
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Am I to take it that adultery in Iran is a crime committed almost exclusively by women?
Actually, the article points out that men are stoned for it too.
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Old 07-21-2008, 11:18 PM
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Really, is the man to women ratio 10:1? And doesn't it take 1 man to 1 woman to have an affair? So shouldn't it be 1:1?
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:19 AM
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Really, is the man to women ratio 10:1? And doesn't it take 1 man to 1 woman to have an affair? So shouldn't it be 1:1?
Actually the punishment only applies to the married ones. The unmarried adulterers get 200 lashes.
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Actually the punishment only applies to the married ones. The unmarried adulterers get 200 lashes.
200 lashes? ARGH Maties! Tie em' to stern and break out the ropes!
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Somehow, I am just not terribly afraid of such a backwards, goofy country. The Bush Administration's really trying to sell Iran as the next Great Evil, but these guys are living in the 8th century. Even if they got nukes, they probably think they work with magic spells and djinnis.....
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Old 07-22-2008, 12:47 PM
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Heh. Just thought of something we might have to fear from Iran: Flying carpet bombing! Sim-salabim!!

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