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Old 07-10-2008, 05:38 PM
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Is this the answer - or at least part of the terrorism puzzle?

Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis

By Shiraz Maher
BBC Newsnight, Riyadh


In a small compound on the outskirts of Riyadh, the Saudi government is exploring new ways to combat extremism.


This is still a prison, run by the Ministry of Interior and housed inside secure premises with high perimeter walls and barbed wire, but the Saudi authorities prefer to call it a "care centre" and refer to prisoners as "beneficiaries".

This is not what you would imagine when you think of a typical Saudi jail.

Inside, prisoners enjoy access to wide-ranging recreational facilities including their own swimming pools, video games and table tennis.

In return for the more relaxed environment, prisoners have to attend religious education classes where Islamic scholars challenge their views.

The thinking behind the new initiative is to fight al-Qaeda's ideology by convincing militant Islamists they have a distorted view of Islam.

The Ministry of Interior oversees the new scheme and has created the Ideological Security Unit (ISU) dedicated to co-ordinating their efforts.

"You cannot defeat an ideology by force. You have to fight ideas with ideas," says Abdul-Rahman Hadlaq, ISU director.

But the centre goes beyond just debating ideas. It also encourages prisoners to express their "softer side" by running art therapy classes where inmates find alternative ways to express themselves.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Perks of penance for Saudi jihadis
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"You cannot defeat an ideology by force. You have to fight ideas with ideas," says Abdul-Rahman Hadlaq, ISU director.


Way to go SA. For all their problems, I think they hit the nail on the head with this one.
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About bloody time, let's open these up everywhere across the ME. Any prisoners we take, send them to the neaerest one that has an opening.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:55 PM
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This must be the first good thing i have heard about SA. Any chance of the US learning from this ? I think not.
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Fantastic. The ideals of Al Qaeda are so diametrically opposed to Islam that it is easy to turn these people back to righteous path.
It reminds me of a similar thing they were doing in Yemen a few years ago.
Koranic duels ease terror | csmonitor.com

The best weapon there is against extremists is the religion they profess to follow.
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The thing that worries me about this is the actors. What do you do if one of them lies to seem like he's been reformed, but still harbors his original ideas?

At the root, though, I believe this is a better route than just killing them all.
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This is a great move and should be adopted world-wide, it's just a shame it comes from an opressive and violent regime.
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The thing that worries me about this is the actors. What do you do if one of them lies to seem like he's been reformed, but still harbors his original ideas?

At the root, though, I believe this is a better route than just killing them all.
Well, nothing is perfect and hopefully they have considered this risk and taken the need precausions.
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This is a great move and should be adopted world-wide, it's just a shame it comes from an opressive and violent regime.
I'd say that it is a good thing that it came from them as that is a sign that they are getting better (less opressive and violent), so it is like saving two birds with one band-aid (I was going to go with the killing two birds thing, but I felt that was a little negative of what is going on).
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I'd say that it is a good thing that it came from them as that is a sign that they are getting better (less opressive and violent), so it is like saving two birds with one band-aid (I was going to go with the killing two birds thing, but I felt that was a little negative of what is going on).
Maybe, but it does nothing to tackle the plethora of human rights abuses, call me cynical but it seems like Saudi is tackling the one issue it needs to keep America sweet, i.e. Islamic terrorism. The rest of it America's leaders don't care about so the Saudi regime won't bother sorting them.
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