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This is crazy. Jailing a general officer because he challenged some stupid socialist slogan as being unconsttutional. It's no wonder that the Venezuelan military is losing faith in Chavez.

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — An army general protesting the "socialism or death" motto of President Hugo Chavez has been released from military detention, but still could be charged with a crime, his attorney said Wednesday.

Gen. Angel Vivas Perdomo was detained by military intelligence agents Tuesday while driving near his home in the capital.

He was released Tuesday night after being questioned for nearly nine hours, but was ordered not to leave the capital and to report to the military prosecutor's office twice a month, attorney Jose Zaa said.

The government did not say why the general was detained, but the action came after he said publicly that a Cuban-inspired troop salute ordered by Chavez is unconstitutional and violates the military's apolitical tradition.

Vivas Perdomo has asked Venezuela's Supreme Court to toss out the salute, "Fatherland, socialism or death! We will triumph!"

Hours before his detention, he suggested replacing the slogan with a declaration by 19th-century independence hero Francisco de Miranda: "Death to tyranny. Long live freedom!"

The general has not yet been charged with any crime, although authorities notified him they are looking into charges of "offending the armed forces" and insubordination, Zaa said.
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This reminds me of a Canadian soldier who was disciplined for refusing to swear allegiance to the Queen.
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This is crazy. Jailing a general officer because he challenged some stupid socialist slogan as being unconsttutional. It's no wonder that the Venezuelan military is losing faith in Chavez.


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I don't believe Gen. Angel Vivas Perdomo was actually arrested, he was invited to attend questioning, which he did.
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I don't believe Gen. Angel Vivas Perdomo was actually arrested, he was invited to attend questioning, which he did.
It was not a matter of choice. He was detained.

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Venezuela's military detained a dissident army general on Tuesday who opposes the socialist ideology espoused by President Hugo Chavez, but the officer's attorney said he expects his client to soon be released.

Gen. Angel Vivas Perdomo was being held by military intelligence agents after they detained him while driving near his home in eastern Caracas, said Vivas Perdomo's lawyer, Jose Zaa.
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This reminds me of a Canadian soldier who was disciplined for refusing to swear allegiance to the Queen.
There's also cases in the States where military personnel have been brought to court for making political statements while in uniform. And they were actually charged.

There's something funny about hearing people call Chavez a dictator around here in the good state of Texas whilst championing our own president - who won 2000 through the decision of a few justices.

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There's also cases in the States where military personnel have been brought to court for making political statements while in uniform. And they were actually charged.

There's something funny about hearing people call Chavez a dictator around here in the good state of Texas whilst championing our own president - who won 2000 through the decision of a few justices.

Is it your opinion that a general who points out the unconstitutional nature of a required slogan should be detained and questioned against his will?
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It was not a matter of choice. He was detained.


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Actually his lawyer said that he wasn't under arrest and that his "physical integrity" was fine.
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Actually his lawyer said that he wasn't under arrest and that his "physical integrity" was fine.
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Detained means in custody. You don't get to leave whenever you want.
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