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Old 06-27-2008, 05:03 PM
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Your explanation only serves to demonstrate that Chavez, even after ten years in power, is either giving tacit approval to human rights abuse or he's an ineffective leader. Or both.
*shrug*

He's not a God.
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Old 06-27-2008, 05:08 PM
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Well let's think about this for a second. When things like Guantanamo Bay are brought up we usually shove the blame on our leaders (Bush and the government which approved it). When we see things such as the modern day slavery in Brazil we blame the Brazilian government for not doing enough to deter these ranchers, and when Russia didn't do enough to bring war criminals to justice, the government was found guilty of the Grosney Massacre, so I think that blaming the Chavez government for these abuses or for the failure to properly address these abuses is an adequate response, especially since he has been in power for so long.
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*shrug*

He's not a God.
Neither is he an effective and humanitarian leader.
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Neither is he an effective and humanitarian leader.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never seen DJ try to claim that Chavez was either 'effective' or 'humanitarian'.

Things may not have gotten better under his rule, but it's not like human rights abuses STARTED once he came to power.

Is he or is his government doing enough about it? probably not.

Could they do more? obviously.

Does that mean it's all his fault? No. And blaming him for it is like trying to blame Bush for the floods on the Mississippi river.
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I guess we should not mention all of the reports AI has on abuses in the US, right? That would not show that all countries have issues, right?
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I guess we should not mention all of the reports AI has on abuses in the US, right? That would not show that all countries have issues, right?
Well that would be down right unAmerican you commie leftest. AI is a know Leftest organization.

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I guess we should not mention all of the reports AI has on abuses in the US, right? That would not show that all countries have issues, right?
Sure, mention it. Just do it in a seperate thread instead of trying to hijack this one. This thread addresses Chavez's tolerance for human rights abuse in Venezuela.
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Sure, mention it. Just do it in a seperate thread instead of trying to hijack this one. This thread addresses Chavez's tolerance for human rights abuse in Venezuela.
Tolerance or inability to effect change?
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Tolerance or inability to effect change?
In either case he is a bad, bad, bad, bad man.

And clearly Bourne is just sh-itting bricks about the number of Venezuelans who are suffering human rights abuse at the hands of Chavez himself.

Or something like that.
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In either case he is a bad, bad, bad, bad man.
So is Langston Hughes.

Cause everybody tells him so...
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