So its possible NK is turning around to some extent, but at least things are moving in the right direction. President Bush removed North Korea from the terror list and removed some sanctions as well. I suppose there is still a threat but at least its a move in the right direction.


North Korea removed from US 'axis of evil' - Times Online

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Personally I think NK got their hands on something. Either a nuke, chem. weapons, bio. weapons something. I have a hard time believing that they are just ripping it down because we asked nicely. That or through some sort of back channel we let NK know, if they do not stop the grab *** than something is going to happen, and they are really not going to like it.

I doubt America would like it, there's nothing America could threaten NK with if we think about this seriously, the damage would be way too much for America.

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How is that?

If you're thinking war, the casualties would be huge, and that's without any occupation, not to mention the possibility of Chinese involvement. If you're talking economic sanctions, well they've already been tried.

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My first thoughts when i saw this on the news was, why ? Why have they been removed from the terror list for getting rid of a nuclear thing ? What does that have to do with terrorism ? Kinda just shows how stupid that list is, not to mention just how ironic the US having a list of state sponsors of terror is.

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You're right; the US has nuclear warheads so it is ridiculous for politicos in the US to place other countries on terrorist lists for having them. It's also extremely hypocritical for a country that has nuclear warheads to tell other countries they cannot have them.

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This is more progress on the US front than the North Korea front.

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Yes, but we would never use them, although this is true. There has been a continuing arms reduction over the years still, but the balance of weaponry between ex-soviet nations and the US must maintain the status quo is the thinking I would guess. Mutually assured destruction was probably the only thing that kept the world from being destoryed during the cold war and as long as there is even some minor threat of that happening in the future, both sides will maintain a large portion of their arsenal.

But the issue of other non-involved nations gaining nuclear weaponry has always been an issue. The thought behind it being that third-world nations ruled by dictators would be more willing to actually use nukes as weaponry. North Korea especially, since they are still at war with the south. Iran, Iraq, and NK all have bad track records with the use of banned weaponry in war and abuse of human rights, which is what sparked the "axis of evil" comment back in 2002.

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To date, the United States is the only country ever to have used a nuclear weapon.

Then that thought process is fundamentally flawed. There is no incentive for them to preemptively use a nuclear weapon, and a much, much greater disincentive form them not to.

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