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Old 06-26-2008, 03:28 PM
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More evidence that Chavez and his loony brand of socialism are ruining Venezuela.

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CARACAS—To any observer walking through the streets of this city, the poor performance of the Venezuelan economy is a powerful revelation. The basic elements of Venezuelans’ daily diet are missing; it is hard—sometimes impossible—to find milk, chicken, or flour; and there is a shortage of medicine and other products essential to good health. But as the state budget continues to increase due to a dramatic rise in oil revenues since 2003, wages have been frozen for years despite the government’s claim to operate on the people’s behalf.
In 2003, Chávez’s government established an exchange control regulating the value of the dollar and reserving the power to grant foreign currency for the state. Soon he created criminal laws strictly controlling all foreign currency transactions. Naturally, a parallel market for the dollar soon emerged; the government controlled imports, and a public organization, the Commission for Foreign Exchange Administration, was placed in charge of nearly all foreign trade.

STRONG PRESSURES

These measures were imposed for two reasons. First, they prevented the dollar’s rise from affecting Venezuelan imports. By fixing the dollar and imposing strict price controls on about 500 products, Chávez managed to artificially maintain purchasing power at a time when he wanted to expand his political base. Secondly, by controlling all foreign exchange operations, the state subjected local enterprises to strong pressures, controlled the supply of raw materials to the media, and exercised total vigilance over the economic activities of individuals.

Temporarily this worked quite well for the government, giving a false impression of success. While prices were controlled, oil revenues rose in a sustained and truly impressive manner. Venezuela was able to demonstrate indexes of positive economic growth, and Chávez won several elections, managing to stay in power.

WEAKER ECONOMY

However, the situation has changed and the economy has weakened. With obvious political motives, the government has issued huge quantities of local currency and has lavishly spent money on ineffective social programs to boost international support. Additionally, the state has failed to invest in infrastructure that could facilitate development. As a result, businesses, burdened by multiple controls and constant threats to private property, have reduced their investments to a minimum and barely remain operational.

All this has led to a large disparity between the official dollar (worth 2.15 bolivares) and the parallel market dollar (around 4 bolivares), creating a situation that becomes less sustainable every day. Venezuela has previously experienced similar, though less intense, problems. In both 1989 and 1996, it became necessary to eliminate exchange and price controls to prevent hyperinflation and clean up fiscal accounts. Now, however, Chávez, who presents himself as a champion against so-called “neoliberalism,” will avoid adopting those necessary measures. After losing the referendum in December, it has become harder for him to advance the principles of socialism.

We can only foresee that the next several months will bring increased inflation, more shortages, and greater internal strife within Chavismo. Social malaise will surely rise, weakening political support for the government. Without a doubt, the legacy of Hugo Chávez is in serious trouble.


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OMG, a developing latin American country has some economic troubles, must be the governmnet's fault. Chavez is not perfect, I'll admit it, but let's take the article's concluding sentences:
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We can only foresee that the next several months will bring increased inflation, more shortages, and greater internal strife within Chavismo. Social malaise will surely rise, weakening political support for the government. Without a doubt, the legacy of Hugo Chávez is in serious trouble.
Let's see if this doesn't make as much sense:
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We can only foresee that the next several months will bring increased inflation, more shortages, and greater internal strife within Britain. Social malaise will surely rise, weakening political support for the government. Without a doubt, the legacy of Gordon Brown is in serious trouble.
or maybe:
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We can only foresee that the next several months will bring increased inflation, more shortages, and greater internal strife within America. Social malaise will surely rise, weakening political support for the government. Without a doubt, the legacy of George Bush is in serious trouble.
And those are examples from incredibly wealthy countries.
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Manipulating my quote without any supporting links does nothing more than lend incredibility to your opinion.

Venezuela is not a developing country, but it's government and economy are developing and developing poorly under socialism.

The failing Venezuelan economy is an indictment of Chavez's Bolivarian socialism.
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Venezuela is not a developing country?


It most certainly is. What the hell are you on about?
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Manipulating my quote without any supporting links does nothing more than lend incredibility to your opinion.

Venezuela is not a developing country, but it's government and economy are developing and developing poorly under socialism.

The failing Venezuelan economy is an indictment of Chavez's Bolivarian socialism.
Are you saying my quotes are untrue? Well if you're claiming Venezuela isn't a developing country you might actually try that. Tell me, what makes Carlos Sabino more reliable than me?
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Venezuela is not a developing country?


It most certainly is. What the hell are you on about?
he doesn't know.


1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 GDP (real ann. %-change) -6.0 3.7 3.4 -8.9 -7.8 18.3 2004 Consumption (real ann. %-chg) -2.9 4.6 6.2 -6.2 -2.3 15.2 2004 Investment (real ann. %-chg) -15.6 2.6 13.8 -18.4 -37.0 49.7 2004 Oil GDP (real ann. %-chg) 10.3 -1.2 7.1 4.7 7.1 7.7 2004 Non-Oil GDP (real ann. %-chg) 8.6 7.7 -1.3 -3.9 2.5 -2.5 2004 Manufact. Act (ann. var in %) -10.1 5.1 3.7 -13.1 -6.8 21.4 2004 Unemployment (%) 10.6 10.0 11.0 15.7 14.6 10.9 2004 Fiscal Balance (% of GDP) -1.6 -1.6 -4.3 -3.3 -4.3 -1.9 2004

numbers change quite a lot. In many places they are doing far better then 1999 and before. and in many ways worse.

Stop Demonizing Chavez, it is Tired. he is not have the evil man he is made out to be.
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Are you saying my quotes are untrue? Well if you're claiming Venezuela isn't a developing country you might actually try that. Tell me, what makes Carlos Sabino more reliable than me?
Your quotes are obviously contrived and without any supporting links.

Sabino, hell anyone for that matter, is more reliable than you.
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Your quotes are obviously contrived and without any supporting links.

Sabino, hell anyone for that matter, is more reliable than you.
So your answer is a non-answer then, ok thanks.
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he doesn't know.


1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 GDP (real ann. %-change) -6.0 3.7 3.4 -8.9 -7.8 18.3 2004 Consumption (real ann. %-chg) -2.9 4.6 6.2 -6.2 -2.3 15.2 2004 Investment (real ann. %-chg) -15.6 2.6 13.8 -18.4 -37.0 49.7 2004 Oil GDP (real ann. %-chg) 10.3 -1.2 7.1 4.7 7.1 7.7 2004 Non-Oil GDP (real ann. %-chg) 8.6 7.7 -1.3 -3.9 2.5 -2.5 2004 Manufact. Act (ann. var in %) -10.1 5.1 3.7 -13.1 -6.8 21.4 2004 Unemployment (%) 10.6 10.0 11.0 15.7 14.6 10.9 2004 Fiscal Balance (% of GDP) -1.6 -1.6 -4.3 -3.3 -4.3 -1.9 2004

numbers change quite a lot. In many places they are doing far better then 1999 and before. and in many ways worse.

Stop Demonizing Chavez, it is Tired. he is not have the evil man he is made out to be.
The numbers don't lie. Chavez and his manipulation of the Venezuelan economy are sending the country down the toilet. Fortunately his public support is quickly eroding and he's likely to be voted out of office unless things improve.

Chavez's Bolivarian socialism is an abject failure and he's becoming a regional joke.
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I'm still waiting for you to explain why Venezuela is not a developing country.
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