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Old 06-26-2008, 03:24 PM
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BTW: Damn you Fernando Torres!
Seconded! But that bastard Arschavin (I don't know how to spell it properly) wants to go to Spain and Barca not Man Utd, so I'm not too keen on Russia either.

Oh, sorry I'm off topic.
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Yes, and what sort of power is that exactly? Almost akin to none.
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Seconded! But that bastard Arschavin (I don't know how to spell it properly) wants to go to Spain and Barca not Man Utd, so I'm not too keen on Russia either.

Oh, sorry I'm off topic.
Bah Arshavin is 27 already. Man U should go after younger guys, like Benzema and Kerlon. That Arda Turan kid might not be a bad investment either.

Whoops, I'm off topic too@!
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Old 06-26-2008, 03:26 PM
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So killing him to please the U.S. far right and the Israeli's only? Nah, they wouldn't risk it and the potential international fallout
I hope so, i just wouldn't put it past them on past form.

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I'm from Iran lol, lovely city of Shiraz. Lived in your country for a little more than seven years (Keele!). Now living in the U.S. Somewhere in there I lived in Denmark for a year too.
lol pretty well travelled then. Sorry about Britain

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EDIT: That's now two chances Pavluychenko has missed!
That has been the story of the tournament. He misses about 5 chances before he eventually takes one. He is a frustrating player.
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I hope so, i just wouldn't put it past them on past form.
Maybe... maybe not..

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lol pretty well travelled then. Sorry about Britain
Lol actually out of all the countries I've lived in Britain has been my favorite.

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That has been the story of the tournament. He misses about 5 chances before he eventually takes one. He is a frustrating player.
Indeed! Well now that David Villa is off maybe the Russians will catch a break?
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:05 PM
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Lol actually out of all the countries I've lived in Britain has been my favorite.
The rest of the world must have some serious problems then

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Indeed! Well now that David Villa is off maybe the Russians will catch a break?
It just wasnt to be. The Russians didnt show nearly enough fight.
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But since when has America cared about what anyone else thinks ? And the chances of China doing that for Iran must be slim as it would cause China harm too to destroy its largest trading partner.
This is not just a matter of what everyone else thinks, but also a matter of its support. An America without support would not last for very long in its endeavors in the Middle East, so it must tip toe the line between what it wants and what it has already. Some of the countries supporting it already in Iraq may very well pull out if America were to attack Iran, and America needs those countries support in Iraq considering that, if they were to pull out, it would be a major setback to the considerable length we have gotten in Iraq.

As for China, it is actually not that unlikely that it would raise its prices as the trans-national companies that have interests in China would be unlikely to leave to find somewhere more expensive. Also, as a side note, China could easily stop buying the US's debt and send it down the **** hole that way.
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So you don't believe that sometimes governments keep things secret so as to protect their source and national security.
No, I do believe this.

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Have you not even considered that if Iran come out and say how they know, they will compromise their source and so he will become ineffictive in foiling future incidents. I am not saying this necessarily happened, but to dismiss such a cenario is intellectual impotence.
I'm not dismissing it.

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I expect Bourne to say things like no evidence, no credibility, but past experience with you lead me to believe you would think a touch deeper.
On the contrary, I very much so value evidence when supporting claims. I am not going to automatically assume that everyone in the world is telling me the truth and doesn't have their facts wrong and are unbiased.

If I were to do that, then politics would eat me alive.

He makes the claim that the US tried to assassinate him but doesn't support it with anything at all, so I am forced to assume that this is untrue (even if it is possible) until some evidence is found to suggest otherwise.

This is the whole innocent until proven guilty thing that we hear so much about in western society.
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