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Old 06-24-2008, 09:22 AM
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Democracy is not incompatible with Sharia.
Eh? Have you forgotten how the Caliph was chosen way back in the early days of Islam after the death of the Prophet(saw)?

Democratic Elections that's how.

In fact, the word "Democracy" is essentially and Arabic word made up from transliterations of the words Idhmamah, root word "Dham", and the word "Kursiy".

"Dham" is a group or bundle, "Kursiy" means chair. So "Democracy" means a group of chairs or representatives taken from the arabic roots of the word.

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Eh? Have you forgotten how the Caliph was chosen way back in the early days of Islam after the death of the Prophet(saw)?

Democratic Elections that's how.

In fact, the word "Democracy" is essentially and Arabic word made up from transliterations of the words Idhmamah, root word "Dham", and the word "Kursiy".

"Dham" is a group or bundle, "Kursiy" means chair. So "Democracy" means a group of chairs or representatives taken from the arabic roots of the word.

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Uh... I'm pretty sure that the etymology of Democracy comes from the Greek "Rule by the People."

Anyway, if you read my post, I said that democracy is not incompatible with Shariah.
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Uh... I'm pretty sure that the etymology of Democracy comes from the Greek "Rule by the People."

Anyway, if you read my post, I said that democracy is not incompatible with Shariah.
Why?
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Why would it be?

(I forget if English is your first language, so just in case there is a translation problem, I'm saying that Democracy and Sharia can work in the same system, that is to say, they are compatible, not incompatible.)

Now that that's cleared up, why would Sharia interfere with democracy?
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Uh... I'm pretty sure that the etymology of Democracy comes from the Greek "Rule by the People."
I was always told the same. Demos Kratos ?
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He's wrong, for quite a few reasons, an important one being that the idea of Democracy is very popular in Arab nations among the people themselves.

If you're interested, I wrote a twenty odd page paper on Arab democracy this semester past. I can send it to you if you want. (I'm not going to post it on the internet for obvious academic reasons.)

This is exactly right. In fact, in recent studies when asked what they like most about the west, Arabs responded that they really like our political and economic freedoms.
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Have you considered that Muslims have immigrated to the West and essentially set up their own communities with their own mosque and religious leader and then have proceeded to try to establish Sharia Law. That would seem to indicate that at least a substantial number of Muslims after moving to western nations have simply gone back to the old ways and theocracy.

There is a reason for this. Muslim nations were colonized by Europe and Muslims were drafted into the armed forces to fight Europe's world wars. Immigration and movement of Muslim persons during that time was huge. Muslims do like the political and economic openess, but with how quickly their numbers grew in Europe they were rejected by the European population (like the rift we see between the French and the Muslim French. and the Brits and the Pakistani Brits. These rifts causes hard condtions for immigrants and the racism poalrizes them. The second generation become more radicalized and moves more toward the conservative end of the spectrum as they are rejected by western culture they seek out more conservative eastern culture.

The United States hasn't had this problem because

1.) we didn't have the floods of middle Eastern immigrants that Europe did (though we do have a significant ammount)

2.) Whereas immigrants such as Pakistanis are quite poor on average in the UK, they are doing really well economically here in the US and they feel less discriminated against, thus we have less problems with them and integrating them is easier.
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