Yes but Hamas are not terrorists, they are a political party. Also, not everyone voted for Hamas, so those people should not be punished anyway.

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They're not a political party, they're a terrorist organization and will never be anything but a terrorist organization.

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No, they are a political party, that is fact. That they are terrorists is debateable, that they were may be fact. The people of the Gaza strip have a right to chose the leaders they want and as long as the elections are free and fair it's not for us or anyone else to condemn them for thei decision. I could just as easily decide that Britain should bomb Israel indiscriminantly because the Israeli people voted for a terrorist governmnet.

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And when their choice results in the deaths of Israeli civilians, Israel does have the right to condemn the Palestinians for their decision. There is no Palestinian state: they're not entitled to be treated as if they were a sovereign nation.

Well, Britain could say that about Ireland if the consequence of the Irish vote was that lives in Britain were lost.

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There is no palestinian state because it was forcibly taken off them and they have now been put into an open-air prison. Also, I have more regard for people than any high notion of a state, the thing which makes a state legitimate are the people that live in the country and as such they are the most important thing. What you are doing is condeming a whole group of people because they are fed up with having their lives control by a foreign nation, surely as a libertarian you can relate to that.

I was talking about Israel, and even so I think it would be ridiculous.

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Wrong! There has never been a Palestinian state.

I feel no sympathy for the Palestinians. They had the opportunity to have a state of their own (in the partition of Palestine) - a state consisting of 80 percent of the land that is now Israel, Gaza and the West Bank - and they turned it down. If the Palestinians today want to be a state then they need to start acting like one instead of whining about not being able to cross over into Israel so that they can blow up buses and other public places.

I know you were talking about Israel but my answer is still valid.

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So much for the truce! Palestinian rockets fired at Israel despite truce - Israel-Palestinians - MSNBC.com

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Did you expect it to last when Israel was still going into Palestinian territory and killing people?

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The truce was with Gaza, not with the West Bank. And, actually, I was being generous in giving it a week.

Are you saying Israel had no right to arrest terrorists in the West Bank?

What's interesting is that the raid took place AFTER Palestinians injured three Israeli hikers in the area (though the raid was unrelated) and that the militant leader the Israelis killed was planning a terrorist attack on Israel.

Islamic Jihad said the commander of its northern West Bank operations, Tarek Juma, was killed in the raid.
According to the military, Juma was targeted because he was planning an attack on Israel. It said troops found explosive devices and munitions in his dormitory apartment at An Najah University. SOURCE


Hamas, which claimed responsibility for a shooting attack that injured three Israeli hikers near a West Bank settlement on Friday, also called on Palestinian groups in the West Bank to retaliate for the killings, saying they had a right to do so because the ceasefire deal was limited to the Gaza Strip. SOURCE

So, let's see, Hamas engaged in a shooting attack this past Friday against Israeli civilians. Israel finds out that an Islamic Jihad commander is planning a terrorist attack on Israel and does something about it, after which Islamic Jihad in Gaza fires rockets into Israel. Then, Hamas gives permission for Palestinians in the West Bank to retaliate against Israel for Israel's going after a terrorist planning a terrorist attack.

So, how are you figuring that Israel is in the wrong here?

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Israel wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants a cease fire and to still do whatever it wants whenever it wants. If it truly was interested in a cease fire, it would cease killing Palestinians. Neither side is right in this. And as I said before, neither side truly wants peace.

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