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Old 05-14-2008, 12:35 PM
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What? An American funded and backed coup is certainly reason to be fearful of the empire, so is America's history of violent interference within Latin America.
Typical socialist paranoia. But even Chavez isn't so stupid as to directly threaten the US. He knows what the result would be. We'd devestate Venezuela in 1 - 2 days. Instead he just keeps spouting his load of socialist bulls*t in a vain attempt to impress someone, anyone.
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Venezuela is allied with countries that support repression and terrorism and will therefore be judged by its actions and relationships.
Pot, kettle, black. Venezuela can be linked to anyone you like, but the US directly represses and terrorises. They are allied with more repressive regimes than Venezuela could ever be. You are in no position to take the moral high ground.
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Pot, kettle, black. Venezuela can be linked to anyone you like, but the US directly represses and terrorises. They are allied with more repressive regimes than Venezuela could ever be. You are in no position to take the moral high ground.
You really need to brush up on the Socialist and Communist rulers that this world has known. Then you will have a better idea of who actually "represses and terrorises".
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You really need to brush up on the Socialist and Communist rulers that this world has known. Then you will have a better idea of who actually "represses and terrorises".
Show me one instance of Chavez repressing or terrorising.
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Pot, kettle, black. Venezuela can be linked to anyone you like, but the US directly represses and terrorises. They are allied with more repressive regimes than Venezuela could ever be. You are in no position to take the moral high ground.
Venezuela is allied with and supports Cuba, Bolivia, Russia, Iran. In the case of Iran Venezuela is effectively allied with state sponsored terrorism.

Chavez has directly repressed civil dissent and the media in Venezuela. He has manipulated elections and the Venzuelan constitution to increse his power.

The US has been involved in some unsavory relationships but nothing like what Chavez has done.
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Venezuela is allied with and supports Cuba, Bolivia, Russia, Iran. In the case of Iran Venezuela is effectively allied with state sponsored terrorism.

Chavez has directly repressed civil dissent and the media in Venezuela. He has manipulated elections and the Venzuelan constitution to increse his power.

The US has been involved in some unsavory relationships but nothing like what Chavez has done.
Why are you lying ? Because that is what you are doing. Chaves has manipulated no elections, unlike in your country where the supreme court appoints the president

Venezuela hasn't started any wars, it has no guantanamo or abu ghraib. The twon are incomparable.
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Show me one instance of Chavez repressing or terrorising.
Are you telling us that Chavez is one of the two (socialist or communist)?
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I'm not asking for you to prove anything, i am asking for you to make a case that the US does not practise neocolonialism and/or that imperiallism is the modern day domination that takes the guise of neocolonialism.
By your own admission, you are asking me to prove "that the US does not practise neocolonialism." That is the rough equivalent of my asking you to prove that the Vatican does not secretly practice Presbyterianism.

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I have shown you why i believe the US to be an empire...
You have? And how, precisely, have you shown the US to be an "empire," in contradistinction to its merely being a great power?
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Why are you lying ? Because that is what you are doing. Chaves has manipulated no elections, unlike in your country where the supreme court appoints the president
I expect you to apologize for calling me a liar or your insult will be reported.

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Another absolutely stupid anti-American thread.

I thought that this forum had a rule against baiting and trolling for a fight using this kind of sh*t.

We sell weapons to half the world, russia and china sell weapons to the other half... So how is this an anti-american thread?

You want us to sell weapons to everyone? What kind of test of their capabilities would that be? One needs competition to excel.
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