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Old 05-14-2008, 04:39 PM
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That didn't work out too well for you in Afghanistan, did it? Mi-24s were falling like dog turds from the sky because of US suppied Stingers. And the Soviets got their as*es kicked.

It can happen again.
it already is, bourne... just not the way you are thinking... those mujahadine fighters we were supplying with our weaponry in Afghanstan back in the 80s, now fight with the militias and "terrorists"... we supplied and trained them, now look at what they are doing...

and obtw, bourne... those stingers were supplied to the mujahadine by Charlie Wilson, a democratic congressman from Texas, at a time when the republicans in charge couldn't be bothered.

Have you seen Charlie Wilson's War yet? you should... and take a real good look at the people in the refugee camps, too...
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Yeah, but with the amount of anti-Obama threads you post you might want to be careful about what you wish for.
was gonna rep you for this post, but alas...same thing... I have to spread it around more... funny thing is, I have been spreading it around...
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Once again, the point is lost on you.
as his is on you...

laffing...

you're funny, bourne...
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I dont get it, America gets **** on for dealing with "shady" countries and everyone here jumps all over it. And Russia starts selling arms to the same kinds of people and everyone jumps to their defense?

I understand you guys hate America and everything it stands for but come on.

Are you suggesting that those that oppose us should remain unarmed and trust we won't invade them? IMO, That would be stupid on their part considering our recent history invading countries that hadn't attacked us.

and obtw, before you go down that road attacking me for hating america... I volunteered for, and served in, the war of my youth, did you?
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What shady country ? Venezuela is no shady country, it is a social democracy that has invaded no countries, it doesn't fly people around the world to be tortured, it overthrows no other leaders, it helps the poor at home and abroad (including in your own country). If that is what makes a shady country then the world by all accounts needs more shady countries.

Venezuela is no Saudi Arabia, it is no Israel, it is no Colombia.
an excellent post worthy of rep, but alas... so solly joe, no can do...
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Well, this "empire" isn't going to collapse anytime to soon. You have NO idea what you are talking about. Have no doubt, our air superiority is unmatched. And I am certain that the "Russo-Venezuelan relationship" you describe will collapse long before the US does. If our military might makes us a world power and an empire, so be it.
It's an empire that constantly needs it's military revitalized by the likes of you... so, AD, will you be enlisting soon?
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Hmm...well, that might take 12 hours to deal with. Wouldn't even need a CVBG (though that would certainly be an effective solution), just a couple of Improved Los Angeles-class SSN's. Position them offshore around, say, 0200 local time, and have each of them launch 18 Tomahawks (three from the torpedo tubes, the twelve vertical-launch tubes, then three more from the torpedo tubes). Thirty-six cruise missiles targeted at the airfields should turn everything into scrap easily enough. If not, THEN send in the CVBG and its Super Hornets.
sounds like you want to level the country, jar... do you care that that will kill thousands of innocent citizens?
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It's an empire that constantly needs it's military revitalized by the likes of you... so, AD, will you be enlisting soon?
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You lot still dont even get it. This is not a militaristic move by Venezuela, it is political strategy. They are sending out a message, not that they will defeat a US invasion but that they will fight it and American will lose lives, many. They are making the more intelligent think about more Americans coming home in bodybags, which such people do not want. Again no one is saying Venezuela will defeat an initial US invasion but they could hurt you in the process and then another quagmire you will be stuck in. It is a political move designed to sway public opinion away from any such imperialist agenda concerning Venezuela.
You're wasting your time, Joe, these jingoists won't be swayed by logic... heavens no, those in charge were warned before the Iraq invasion that it would turn out very badly for them... they didn't listen and invaded anyway... sure we handily beat saddam's military but... the sad thing is, we are no closer to "winning" now then we were when the statue falling was staged in Baghdad's central square...
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Unless they keep those aircraft off of the ground 24 by 7 then a few decently placed ICBM's or MOABS will end Venezuelans aspirations really quick.

How many innocents do you want to kill? All of them?
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