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Old 04-17-2008, 02:14 AM
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Go get them Israel!!! Until Hezbollah and Hamas stop their threatening behavior Israel will deal firmly with them.
I agree with your assessment, and say ya go for it...
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Speaking of guilt by association, do the innocent Arabs who die in the pursuit of terrorist or insurgents fall into the category you assign to dead Jews for not taking a stand against Zionism?
I think we all agree that not all Arabs support terrorist activity. But, their silence seems to be a go signal to the extremist who kill in the name of Allah.
I like Jews. I see nothing wrong with what you people label Zionism. Unless I am mistaken, Zionism is simply a dedication to the "state of Israel". It makes no sense to me that a Jew would have any other loyalty. Or is the government of Palestine going to treat them better than the government of Israel? Absurd standards being set by people living under well established governments that have their loyalty.
Thank you for the truth and support of a Nation in need of reason and reality. Cause there is none from any of their neighbors...
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But one can take the brunt of the blame, the original sinners - the zionists.
Neither side wants to accept blame, and each blames the other.
At this point, its up to both parties to move forward, not backwards.
I dont want to rehash the original blame deal.

There is room for two peoples to live together in peace. Anything else is madness.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:23 AM
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Neither side wants to accept blame, and each blames the other.
At this point, its up to both parties to move forward, not backwards.
I dont want to rehash the original blame deal.

There is room for two peoples to live together in peace. Anything else is madness.
Yes they should allow the Palestinians the right of return and form a democratic Palestinian state in which muslims, christians and jews have equal rights.
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Yes they should allow the Palestinians the right of return and form a democratic Palestinian state in which muslims, christians and jews have equal rights.

I really dont give a crap, as long as everyone stops killing each other.
There will have to be compromise on both sides....
However, I am now of the belief this will never come unless other countries force (by military force) both sides into an agreement.
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I really dont give a crap, as long as everyone stops killing each other.
There will have to be compromise on both sides....
However, I am now of the belief this will never come unless other countries force (by military force) both sides into an agreement.
I actually think if the US and Germany in particular stopped bankrolling Israel it would be forced into compromise - without foreign aid it would be a third world country with a weak military. That cooinciding with political pressure on both sides would be a start at least.
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I actually think if the US and Germany in particular stopped bankrolling Israel it would be forced into compromise - without foreign aid it would be a third world country with a weak military. That cooinciding with political pressure on both sides would be a start at least.
My thoughts except reversed as we support the idiots who keep causing the peace process to stall, your friends I am sure if in mind only. And so do many other countries. How do you think Arafat's wife and children live so well on money he didn't pass out to the camps like these clowns do the same thing today.
And if America would start using oil from places not aliened with terrorist and seek out oil in Alaska (screw the rich who support the clowns that have it stopped) as well as seek other forms of energy.
Like the MIT/Georgia Tech labs that found the guy who started to think radio waves can cure cancer, well they found that used in salt water it creates Hydrogen. Guess that will
be researched forever because it is a real source of clean and cheap energy!

Why is it Joe you always just side with the bad guys and never share the entire truth?

My mind has been dented but yours has no excuse unless your mom dropped you on your head when you were a baby. And I doubt that. Cause most mother love their babies even when they go off the deep end as you have!
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My thoughts except reversed as we support the idiots who keep causing the peace process to stall, your friends I am sure if in mind only. And so do many other countries. How do you think Arafat's wife and children live so well on money he didn't pass out to the camps like these clowns do the same thing today.
And if America would start using oil from places not aliened with terrorist and seek out oil in Alaska (screw the rich who support the clowns that have it stopped) as well as seek other forms of energy.
Like the MIT/Georgia Tech labs that found the guy who started to think radio waves can cure cancer, well they found that used in salt water it creates Hydrogen. Guess that will
be researched forever because it is a real source of clean and cheap energy!

Why is it Joe you always just side with the bad guys and never share the entire truth?

My mind has been dented but yours has no excuse unless your mom dropped you on your head when you were a baby. And I doubt that. Cause most mother love their babies even when they go off the deep end as you have!
Firstly there is rarely such a thing as "bad guys" and "good guys", things don't tend to be black and white, and I'm sure you know that. Hamas are hardly perfect and I don't support them, neither I think does my comrade. Personally (though I'm sure my comrade would agree) I support the innocent people in Gaza and those truly fighting for their freedom, and also those innocents in Israel who truly want peace and a united state.
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Why is it Joe you always just side with the bad guys and never share the entire truth?

My mind has been dented but yours has no excuse unless your mom dropped you on your head when you were a baby. And I doubt that. Cause most mother love their babies even when they go off the deep end as you have!


As levi said, rarely is it so simple as good and bad guys. But if we have to use such labels, i will say the zionists are the bad guys. Hamas aren't great. I support the aims of the once glorious PLO - a united democratic state for all christians, muslims and jews on the land. That is the best outcome. I dont support racist states based on religion, particularly ones which force themselves on the current inhabitants. If that makes me a bad guy, then so be it.
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I actually think if the US and Germany in particular stopped bankrolling Israel it would be forced into compromise - without foreign aid it would be a third world country with a weak military. That cooinciding with political pressure on both sides would be a start at least.

but it has to be tied to a peace agreement. I would think even the threat would do something.
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