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Israelis are Agents Provocateurs!
They are doing it when Jimmy Carter is still in the Middle East trying to negotiate a peace deal between two sides.


Carter Defends Plan to Meet Hamas; Israel Criticizes 13/04/2008
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Oh sorry, i forgot it was that easy.

You may be right Gov.
No problem. You're welcome for the help.
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Innocent Israelis? Come on now!

No seriously, some are innocent but they're not the ones the Palestinian people want revenge against. But don't discount guilt by association with Zionists. Even the innocent ones have a duty to stop the Zionist regime and they're not doing it.

The UShad it coming on 911 but I've always said that they people who died in the WTC didn't deserve to die. Some others would say that they were guilty by association. Most Americans seem to think that the children of their enemies deserve to die. Guilty by association I think.
Thankfully there are good jews all around the world who deplore the zionists. They smash the anti semitism slur used so often by the zionists.



Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews in London and New York burned the flag of the so-called state of 'Israel" to protest the actions and existence of the Zionist state which is totally contrary to traditional Jewish teaching and beliefs. This event has been taking place annually during the Jewish Holiday period of "Purim".



Anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews travelled to New Hampshire on the day of the presidential primary elections hoping to meet with each of the candidates to ask for their support of Palestine.....



A delegation of Anti-Zionist Orthodox Rabbis met with Iranian President, Dr. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad prior to his delivering speeches at the United Nations and Columbia University.


The Committee on the Exercise of the Inalienable Rights of the Palestinian People convened the United Nations International Conference of Civil Society in Support of Israeli-Palestinian Peace at the European Parliament premises in Brussels on 30 and 31 August 2007. Its theme was "Civil society and parliamentarians working together for peace in the Middle East".

A number of anti-Zionist Orthodox Jews attended the Conference. They demonstrated near the European Parliament building to express support for the meeting and sympathy with the Palestinians. 'Judaism condemns the state of Israel and its atrocities," read one of their banners.

Neturei Karta - Orthodox Jews United Against Zionism
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Innocent Israelis? Come on now!

No seriously, some are innocent but they're not the ones the Palestinian people want revenge against. But don't discount guilt by association with Zionists. Even the innocent ones have a duty to stop the Zionist regime and they're not doing it.

The UShad it coming on 911 but I've always said that they people who died in the WTC didn't deserve to die. Some others would say that they were guilty by association. Most Americans seem to think that the children of their enemies deserve to die. Guilty by association I think.
I am simply saying, as I have said before, there are two sides to the fight.
If you blame one, you have to blame both. A few people on this board only present one side, and consistently give one side of the story,
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Innocent Israelis? Come on now!

No seriously, some are innocent but they're not the ones the Palestinian people want revenge against. But don't discount guilt by association with Zionists. Even the innocent ones have a duty to stop the Zionist regime and they're not doing it.

The UShad it coming on 911 but I've always said that they people who died in the WTC didn't deserve to die. Some others would say that they were guilty by association. Most Americans seem to think that the children of their enemies deserve to die. Guilty by association I think.
Speaking of guilt by association, do the innocent Arabs who die in the pursuit of terrorist or insurgents fall into the category you assign to dead Jews for not taking a stand against Zionism?
I think we all agree that not all Arabs support terrorist activity. But, their silence seems to be a go signal to the extremist who kill in the name of Allah.
I like Jews. I see nothing wrong with what you people label Zionism. Unless I am mistaken, Zionism is simply a dedication to the "state of Israel". It makes no sense to me that a Jew would have any other loyalty. Or is the government of Palestine going to treat them better than the government of Israel? Absurd standards being set by people living under well established governments that have their loyalty.
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Speaking of guilt by association, do the innocent Arabs who die in the pursuit of terrorist or insurgents fall into the category you assign to dead Jews for not taking a stand against Zionism?
I think we all agree that not all Arabs support terrorist activity. But, their silence seems to be a go signal to the extremist who kill in the name of Allah.
I like Jews. I see nothing wrong with what you people label Zionism. Unless I am mistaken, Zionism is simply a dedication to the "state of Israel". It makes no sense to me that a Jew would have any other loyalty. Or is the government of Palestine going to treat them better than the government of Israel? Absurd standards being set by people living under well established governments that have their loyalty.
You only need look at post 13 if you want to see what rational thinking jews think of Israel. And if you knew even the slightest thing about judaism you would know that it forbids the creation of the state of Israel. It states that they were given the promise land and God took it away for their sins. They are only to have it back when God gives it to them, without man lifting a finger. That is why these jews oppose the state of Israel, that and because they are good human beings who do not approve of theft and occupation.
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18 Palestinians, 3 Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza violence



Local people in Gaza inspect the damaged building bombed by Israeli airstrikes April 16. Eighteen Palestinians and three Israeli soldiers were killed on Wednesday in a daylong of mutual Israeli and Palestinian attacks in several Gaza Strip areas. (Xinhua Photo)




Local people in Gaza inspect the damaged building bombed by Israeli airstrikes April 16. Eighteen Palestinians and three Israeli soldiers were killed on Wednesday in a daylong of mutual Israeli and Palestinian attacks in several Gaza Strip areas. (Xinhua Photo)

18 Palestinians, 3 Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza violence



Israelis are doing it when Jimmy Carter is still in the Middle East trying to negotiate a peace deal between two sides.
Israelis are Agents Provocateurs! They don't want peace...


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You only need look at post 13 if you want to see what rational thinking jews think of Israel. And if you knew even the slightest thing about judaism you would know that it forbids the creation of the state of Israel. It states that they were given the promise land and God took it away for their sins. They are only to have it back when God gives it to them, without man lifting a finger. That is why these jews oppose the state of Israel, that and because they are good human beings who do not approve of theft and occupation.
I don't claim to be an expert on Jews or Israel or Palestine. Don't care about Judaism.
I am a nationalist blessed with capitalism. If Jews were defending themselves by the command of God, you would be against them. So, paint it any way you like.
I don't like Arabs killing Jews and will always and only vote for politicians who will send them the tools to hammer anyone who threatens or attacks them.
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Innocent Israelis? Come on now!

No seriously, some are innocent but they're not the ones the Palestinian people want revenge against. But don't discount guilt by association with Zionists. Even the innocent ones have a duty to stop the Zionist regime and they're not doing it.

The UShad it coming on 911 but I've always said that they people who died in the WTC didn't deserve to die. Some others would say that they were guilty by association. Most Americans seem to think that the children of their enemies deserve to die. Guilty by association I think.
unfortunately, the Israeli government has its head in the clouds.
Both sides are despicable...you cant blame just one.
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unfortunately, the Israeli government has its head in the clouds.
Both sides are despicable...you cant blame just one.
But one can take the brunt of the blame, the original sinners - the zionists.
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