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Truly, an awfull lot of Russians of the Jewish Faith emmigrated to Israel, so, I suppose one might liken Israel to a Trojan Horse. As one gets older one tends to view ones childhood more wistfully. Well, If Russia can kick The Communists out, perhaps Israel can kick The Zionists and Aristoaparatchiks out. Who knows
I think Cageybee meant something else by his Israel is Stalin's "Trojan Horse".
I believe it has something to do with quick recognition by the USSR of the state of Israel as a way to get inside of the British Empire affaires...
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I think Cageybee meant something else by his Israel is Stalin's "Trojan Horse".
I believe it has something to do with quick recognition by the USSR of the state of Israel as a way to get inside of the British Empire affaires...
exactly! why would the Soviets exagerate the number of Jews killed in Auswitz during the nuremberg trials, and why would they let Jews leave and allow another imperialist government to be created, when Soviets were leading the GLOBAL Communist revolution and trying to spread the message around the world?

Two things that needed to be done: conquer Islam and conquer USA.

Islam is very hardcore and would not change for anything. USA is just as hardcore and does not wish to change.

Creating Israel against all religious beliefs would definately create anger in Muslims and possibly create a deadly war between Israel and Muslim states.

Making Israel a US ally then using Israel to gain intel on US would be a great idea. That's why Israel is a US ally, but spies on USA and sells arms secrets to China where 24 Russian scientists live.

Hm... Israel is for sure a Trojan Horse.
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exactly! why would the Soviets exagerate the number of Jews killed in Auswitz during the nuremberg trials, and why would they let Jews leave and allow another imperialist government to be created, when Soviets were leading the GLOBAL Communist revolution and trying to spread the message around the world?

Two things that needed to be done: conquer Islam and conquer USA.

Islam is very hardcore and would not change for anything. USA is just as hardcore and does not wish to change.

Creating Israel against all religious beliefs would definately create anger in Muslims and possibly create a deadly war between Israel and Muslim states.

Making Israel a US ally then using Israel to gain intel on US would be a great idea. That's why Israel is a US ally, but spies on USA and sells arms secrets to China where 24 Russian scientists live.

Hm... Israel is for sure a Trojan Horse.
perhaps because Slavs hate jews?
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perhaps because Slavs hate jews?
Stalin was a Jew. It wasn't possible for him to be an anti-semite.
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Stalin was a Jew. It wasn't possible for him to be an anti-semite.
Judas was a Jew and look what he caused. I seriously doubt that Stalin was a practicing Jew who attended temple.
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exactly! why would the Soviets exagerate the number of Jews killed in Auswitz during the nuremberg trials, and why would they let Jews leave and allow another imperialist government to be created, when Soviets were leading the GLOBAL Communist revolution and trying to spread the message around the world?

Two things that needed to be done: conquer Islam and conquer USA.

Islam is very hardcore and would not change for anything. USA is just as hardcore and does not wish to change.

Creating Israel against all religious beliefs would definately create anger in Muslims and possibly create a deadly war between Israel and Muslim states.

Making Israel a US ally then using Israel to gain intel on US would be a great idea. That's why Israel is a US ally, but spies on USA and sells arms secrets to China where 24 Russian scientists live.

Hm... Israel is for sure a Trojan Horse.
That's as much of a stretch as putting a Trojan on a horse.

Get it?!
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I think Cageybee meant something else by his Israel is Stalin's "Trojan Horse".
I believe it has something to do with quick recognition by the USSR of the state of Israel as a way to get inside of the British Empire affaires...
Was Stalin a genious or what?
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Stalin was known for building Trojan Horses

Intelligence Reports on the Two Enemies: Stalin Builds a Trojan Horse Against America
Maurice Goldbloom
November 1952

ON OCTOBER 15, 1952, Joseph Stalin told the 19th Congress of the Communist party of the Soviet Union that it was now the task of Communists abroad to "raise the banner of bourgeois democratic freedoms" and "the banner of national independence," and to become "patriots of your country," in order "to rally around you the majority of the people." (It is perhaps superfluous to mention that this advice was not intended to apply to the Communist parties of Poland, Rumania, Czechoslovakia, and Bulgaria.) Thus Stalin put the seal of his personal approval on a line which had been developing gradually for well over a year, and which had given rise to new "popular fronts," and attempts to form them, in many countries throughout the world.


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And the topic is what? Iranian Oil ending up in Israel?

An article from 1952?

And invariably we are back on the topic of Russia.
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And the topic is what? Iranian Oil ending up in Israel?

An article from 1952?

And invariably we are back on the topic of Russia.
just elaborating on Israel being a double agent - Stalin's trojan horse.
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