Where do they elude to it?
They "highlight" the courage in standing strong under siege.

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Which is still murder. It's just not called murder because the victors write history.

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NGOA..

Let it go. The MK (part of the ANC) were fighting against apartheid sponsored by the UK and Israel. Read up on Pass laws.

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Pioneers are walking all around singing songs about Lenin and they should be shot for it.

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"If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
H. L. Mencken

come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

So, that's your answer? You're ok with Mandella's attitude. But if the victors of the past sing praises of the valor of their besieged soldier's courage under fire, they are advocates of murder? Try to remember that the British sailed small war vessels 3000 miles for the purpose of maintaining power over and collecting taxes for their king. They were killing people who had no intention of living under their thumb. Once they were vanquished, the Americans sought no more to kill them. Rather became close allies and have remained so till today. Americans did not sing songs of how they would kill Brits. To do so would have exposed something of one's character. Eh, Nelson?

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How many white men has Mandela killed? Ah... so it's just words... You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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The British National Anthem even talks about killing the Scottish. But i dont think all the people who sing it really believe it.

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If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

Exactly my point.

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I'm in unusual agreement with you. To say one country, nevermind an entire continent is politically and ideologically homogenous is clearly wrong.

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If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism

They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?

Mandella, like Bush, like Roosevelt, like Churchill, like Stalin, like LBJ, are men who need not kill by their own hand. They need only speak the word and the killing begins.
Words are mightier than the sword. As you well know.
I am amazed that you would attempt to diminish the power of speech.

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And I'm amazed that you give so much credence to a song. If Mandela were out making speeches demanding the murder of whites then sure. I might be more willing to say he's off his rocker. But he's not doing that. He is singing a song and as we've already discovered, people are often ignorant or ambivalent to the words and their meanings.

Go back to ring-around-the-rosey, a song we are teaching our children without teaching them the background or meaning.

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