In my view, the people DID stand against it.

The Aznar govt immediately blamed ETA for the attacks when it was clear they had nothing to do with it.

That action turned a lot of voters against Aznar's party.

The people of Spain have been standing against terrorism for decades now, longer than most countries in fact.

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¡Coño Mono Tejano, hablas español! ¡Cojonudo!

Yes I agree with you. The most profitable period for Spain was under Aznar since 1978.
And regarding Franco, man, there was hunger in Spain between 1939 and 1950. Thanks to the US, Spain began to take advantage of tourism and industry, but it took many years to fully take advantage of tourism and industry.

It's too difficult for me to explan it in english, Mono Tejano, but Mr Aznar got us a very good position in the Niza agreements.
Germany 80 million people: 29 seats
France: 60 million people: 29 seats.
UK: 60/70 million people: 29 seats
Spain: 42 million people: 27 seats

Listening Valerie Giscard, probably the worst french presidente for Spain, saying that: Spain is the most beneficiary country after Niza
I mean that with Mr. Aznar we had a ferocious negotiators.
With Mr. Zapataero we have a bunch of aficionados with an undistiguishes academic profile or with no academic profile at all.

Saludos

pues en eso estamos de acuerdo.Soy un cojonudo.

No digo que Aznar fue peor que Zapatero, solo creo que los dos tienen sus problemas ademas de sus abilidades.

I don't know about the academic careers of the socialist. I will take your word for it. And you're right, Aznar is a shrewd negotiator and busiman pero en cuanto al M-11 se metio la pata por completo cuando dijo que fue por culpa de ETA.

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"Yes. That's correct. Making a statement that's 100% true can't be bigoted."

If you consider the maintenance of power of a leftist political party a "revolution," you've seriously lowered your standards.

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Very probably, I don't know much about Spanish politics but I'm sure they're better than the popular party, at least from our point of view.

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The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
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Lol, yes sorry but it's a slow news day.

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The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union.
Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg

Mono Tejano wrote:
Pues en eso estamos de acuerdo.Soy un cojonudo.

I apologize Mono Tejano, perhaps the word cojonudo has a different meaning where you are. Over here means "great!"

Mono Tejano wrote:
And you're right, Aznar is a shrewd negotiator and busiman

That's what I really want for my country.

Mono Tejano wrote:
But regarding M-11 he did wrong when he blamed ETA
pero en cuanto al M-11 se metio la pata por completo cuando dijo que fue por culpa de ETA

IMO, what really happened was that Aznar was not the first one to get classified information from our Ministry of Interior regarding the attacks those days. On the 11th and 12th someone, did not follow the chain of command and previously gave the socialist the information about the arabs. So socialist had classified info from our Scientific Police before the Goverment. So it was very easy to call them liers, it was easy to make a public "show", to cowardly point out Aznar and his cabinet as liers, assesins. Socialists cornered the Goverment while they were facing the worst terrorist attack in the History of Europe. Then the reflection day, you know the day before the election, all Partido Popular head offices in the whole spanish soil, were sourrended by socialist, eggs, stones, insults, some sort of Crystal Night.....what a shame! So the population was thronw, as a political weapon, against partido popular.


Let's not forget that the spanish socialists, while in power did create a terrorist group to fight ETA. But they were arrested by Police. I'm talking about Judge sentences that meant prison for the Ministry of Interior, among others. I honestly believe that former PM Felipe González did not enter jail, becuase his Ministry of Interior- who did serve jail sentence- legally covered him,
But this is my opinion, only

Saludos

No need for appologies. A friend of mine calls everyone 'cojonudo'.

I was not aware of the order in which information was released after the attacks. If what you say is true, it is unfortunate, not surprising, but unfortunate.

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Does this mean the ETA will have a voice now?

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come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

I doubt it, they were already the government as they won the previous election. The PNV, Basque Natioonalists have 6 mp's, though im guessing they share more in common than with the PP.

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They talk about the failure of socialism but where is the success of capitalism in Africa, Asia and Latin America?