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Old 03-06-2008, 07:17 PM
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The Jews controll America that's why USA always vetos any anti-Israel resolution....
You have no idea what you are talking about. The largest pro-Israeli groups in the US aren't Jewish at all, but Christian.
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It isn't an attempt at justification at all, I am merely pointing out that groups such as Hamas have been condemned by the International community and by NGOs. They too are carrying out gross human rights abuses and crimes of war.

As I said before yes, Israel's list of abuses is longer, but do you honestly believe that Hamas would have a shorter one if the situations were reversed?

Both have extremist aims.
No, Israel has a higher kill rate, but Arab Terrorists have the greater number of abuses. And they are virtually always breaking the peace agreements. Buy hey, who cares whos to blame right? I mean that is just a technicallity.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:24 PM
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Thank you for your response, if you would please, answer as to why the U.S. uses its veto power so often with regard to the resolutions against Israel. Also, please tell me why you think there is no press coverage in the U.S. with regard to the resolutions against Israel.
There is plenty of press coverage. Especially today as it seems to have become fashionable to support the Arab terrorists over Israel in the US today. Just look at these posts.

As to why the US vetos UN bills unfavorable to Israel, it is because Israel is on the side of right. Israel is not the agressor, they are just the biggest gun in the region. When you mess with a tiger, you get bit.
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As to why the US vetos UN bills unfavorable to Israel, it is because Israel is on the side of right. Israel is not the agressor, they are just the biggest gun in the region. When you mess with a tiger, you get bit.
"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
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"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
Ben Gurion did not know what he was talking about. If we analyze the situation based on acts, not words, the truth comes out and the real aggressors are revealed.

Stop debating me, you'll waste all your good stuff and won't have anything left for the other debate. :azn:
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No, Israel has a higher kill rate, but Arab Terrorists have the greater number of abuses. And they are virtually always breaking the peace agreements. Buy hey, who cares whos to blame right? I mean that is just a technicallity.
You spoke of abuses and the fact these so called hero's of the cause have more violations
then see this on the same topic page "Death Comes for Israel's Seminarians" the Hero's of Islam took out a school with AK's just to defend their cause.. Sick people. And I am starting to become a Muslim hater... Sorry but any person that doesn't is blind and accepts their lie instead of the truth.
The ones in America who have become citizens lied under oath as Islam comes before this country. I think America needs to re-evaluate their oath and status. Then deport all of them. And shut down almost all middle easter/Asian's Muslims from entery into this country. And that is what the EU needs to do also.

I'll pray for the rag heads but I know the truth, it is a waste of time as they will never come to Jesus. Which makes me happy!
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You spoke of abuses and the fact these so called hero's of the cause have more violations
then see this on the same topic page "Death Comes for Israel's Seminarians" the Hero's of Islam took out a school with AK's just to defend their cause.. Sick people. And I am starting to become a Muslim hater... Sorry but any person that doesn't is blind and accepts their lie instead of the truth.
The ones in America who have become citizens lied under oath as Islam comes before this country. I think America needs to re-evaluate their oath and status. Then deport all of them. And shut down almost all middle easter/Asian's Muslims from entery into this country. And that is what the EU needs to do also.

I'll pray for the rag heads but I know the truth, it is a waste of time as they will never come to Jesus. Which makes me happy!
What a horribly racist remark.
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And the press? Why does the American press support the Zionist?
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And the press? Why does the American press support the Zionist?
Because a large portion of the American population does, as do America's politicians and government.
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Because a large portion of the American population does, as do America's politicians and government.
Thats bull and you know it!

The true reason is because of the owners and interests that decide whats released, and how its reported.

Anyone can check to see who owns and operates the various forms of media in America, Hollywood is almost exclusively run by Zionist (Elitist) interests, hence we are fed a steady diet of movies where every race or religion is criminal, except one one group, please tell me the name of any movie that depicts the Zionists in a bad light, we see movies where the Italians are the MOB (the GodFather), or the Blacks and Latins are drug dealers (AmericanGangster), or the Asians are gang members (BlackRain), or the Arabs are terrorists (True Lies), or the whites are anti-semites (American History X), furthermore almost every crime drama has an ethnic villian.
Now add to that the reviews given these films and dramas, if depicting Zionist in a bad light, most like to receive a bad review, on the other hand, if depicting Arabs or anti-semites in a bad light, likely to get rave reviews, two thumbs up!, must see!

Now lets look at printed material, found within the first few pages of most printed material you can see the names of the printer, publisher and editor, upon closer examination it not difficult to see who's in charge.

Next, television news, the nightly news, primarily controlled by Zionist interest, doesn't it pick you as unusual that the Zionist never receive bad press?

How about leverage? Leverage over independent network owners. It seems that in recent years the Zionists have bought up most of the rights to most of the arts and entertainment media, without their permission, it is illegal for any independent to show a movie or program which the Zionists own the rights to, in order for the independent to show these restricted films and programs he first has to sign a contract with the owners, part of that contract undoubtedly states that the independent also must only show news items that are approved by the owners of the restricted films and programs, failure to follow these guidelines will be grounds for breech, and the independent will lose his rights to show the restricted material, in effect, this leaves the independent network owner broken and busted.

Your assertion that a large part American public supports the Zionist views is false, most of the American public doesn't even know about the Zionist because their actions are under reported or not reported at all, the control the Zionist have over the media make sure of this fact.

As far as politicians and government supporting Zionism, most of the politicians and government of America are Zionist, and those that aren't are bought and paid whores, of course there are exceptions, there are some honest men, Ron Paul and others like him come to mind, these patriots are Americas last hope in my opinion.
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