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Old 03-06-2008, 05:19 AM
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It is still spam. The point of the forum is not to promote links.
Posting a comment along with a link to an article is not spam and is a good way to try and initiate debate or comments...
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:53 AM
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Posting a comment along with a link to an article is not spam and is a good way to try and initiate debate or comments...
I say its spam when the extent of their commentary - "is go read this"
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I say its spam when the extent of their commentary - "is go read this"
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Don't believe any of the BS the UN is spouting about the conflict in the Middle East. Go read this:


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What a Zionist load of rubbish!

Does the Holocaust really justify the expulsions and killings of Palestinian citizens? The Palestinians were expelled from their own ground, just because of forefathers of the Jews lived there many centuries ago ..... Yes I support either Hamas or Fatah, I believe when somebody steels your ground everything should be allowed to get it back.
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What a Zionist load of rubbish!

Does the Holocaust really justify the expulsions and killings of Palestinian citizens? The Palestinians were expelled from their own ground, just because of forefathers of the Jews lived there many centuries ago ..... Yes I support either Hamas or Fatah, I believe when somebody steels your ground everything should be allowed to get it back.
Would you support the Mexican's invading the US to take back the south west? Did you support Hitler in invading Poland at the start of WW2 (along with Russia's invasion from the other side)?
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Would you support the Mexican's invading the US to take back the south west?
After the Mexican-American War ( 1846-1848 ) Mexico has lost everything what is situated northwards to the Rio Grande. At these times, there wasn't a civilization. So no, I won't support Mexico if they claimed parts of the US.

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Did you support Hitler in invading Poland at the start of WW2 (along with Russia's invasion from the other side)?
No, but I really regret after WW II more than 14 million Germans were expelled from Eastern-Europe. It's also deplorable Stalin has annexed large swaths of Poland and Poland has annexed large swaths of Germany. The consequences were horrible: people starved, expulsions, forced migration of nations ...
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So no, I won't Mexico if they claimed parts of the US.
I understand that you're not american and so your english may not be perfect. But I just need to clarify. You're saying "no" that you wouldn't support Mexico trying to use force to take back the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California? If so, why not?
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I understand that you're not american and so your english may not be perfect. But I just need to clarify. You're saying "no" that you wouldn't support Mexico trying to use force to take back the states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California? If so, why not?
I meant "I won't support", I've just drunk a few beers. I'll explain my opinion, the US has conquered it in 1848. In 1848 there wasn't either civilization or a territoriality principle ....

The territoriality principle (everyone accept borders of their states, though language boundaries could change) was the beginning of civilization. I'll give a little example: there is still a German-speaking majority in some villages in Alsace (France). Has Germany claimed it back? No, due to the territoriality principle which was just the beginning of civilization they will never claim it back.
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I meant "I won't support", I've just drunk a few beers. I'll explain my opinion, the US has conquered it in 1848. In 1848 there wasn't either civilization or a territoriality principle ....

The territoriality principle (everyone accept borders of their states, though language boundaries could change) was the beginning of civilization. I'll give a little example: there is still a German-speaking majority in some villages in Alsace (France). Has Germany claimed it back? No, due to the territoriality principle which was just the beginning of civilization they will never claim it back.
Although there was no territoriality principle (because on the other side of the border there was no nation, so no reason to have a border), there was a civilization. In 1835-6, Texas had a revolution (lead by american settlers) and broke away from Mexico and became an independent nation. Several years later it joined as a state of the US. It was largely thanks to the Texans defeating Santa Anna's rather powerful army that gave the US hope for an easy victory just 10 years later. The land (mostly in Cali) was largely populated with farmers and small towns.
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Although there was no territoriality principle (because on the other side of the border there was no nation, so no reason to have a border), there was a civilization.
I think this is subjective, how would you define "civilization"? I consider the territoriality principle as an essential part of civilization.
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