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Old 03-04-2008, 06:55 PM
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The current or historical trends don't support your theory.
Look up the results of the first two British adventures in Afghanistan
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Then, of course, there's the so-called "war on terrorism" brought about after so-called "terrorists" retaliated against the United States (in what the CIA called "blowback" for roughly 50 years of American interference in the Middle East) by crashing some planes into some buildings. One man's terrorism is another's insurgency. One man's terrorist is another's revolutionary
Exactly

Or to put it in the language of the "my country, right or wrong" crowd:

The attack on the Twin Towers was a legitimate Act of War against the United States. The intended targets were the CIA agents working in their office nearby. The other 3000-odd deaths were an unfortunate case of collateral damage

This viewpoint (and the tangible result that follows from it) is perfectly consistent with the way the US quite openly does business around the world
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Old 03-08-2008, 11:30 PM
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The war on terror was majorly fought in Afghanistan, but in reality, United States and joint-cooperative forces fought in over 6 other countries including the Phillipines, Somalia, and Libya (although less than Afghanistan).


Honestly I found it hard for anyone to realistically argue against the war in Afghanistan, given that it was fought for unarguablely legitamite purposes and all traces pointed to the Taliban rule. Now that casualties from insurgency are begining to add up there as well, I find it interesting to see how people begin to turn against it.

The sheeple plan: revenge and run. ...thats not the real world.
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The very notion of a "war on terror" is as silly as the so-called "war on poverty" or the "war on drugs." How the hell are you going to stop people from ever feeling terrified? What about the people who try to experience a certain amount of "terror" by watching horror movies or engaging in extreme recreational activities like bungee jumping? Who the hell does the federal government of the United States think it is to deny these people the right to experience terror?

Then, of course, there's the so-called "war on terrorism" brought about after so-called "terrorists" retaliated against the United States (in what the CIA called "blowback" for roughly 50 years of American interference in the Middle East) by crashing some planes into some buildings. One man's terrorism is another's insurgency. One man's terrorist is another's revolutionary.
You are being thick. The phrase "war on terror" extends to Islamic Fascists around the World. "The war on terrorists" or "The war on Islamic Extremists" or "The war on ideological differences", or whatever. But then, you know this already don't you? So stop playing cute with the literal.
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:34 AM
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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We ain't Brits.
Speak for yourself.

What's wrong with Brits, btw?
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Speak for yourself.

What's wrong with Brits, btw?
Nothing. But you can't compare US foreign policy and military prowness with anyone. Not even the Brits.
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Nothing. But you can't compare US foreign policy and military prowness with anyone. Not even the Brits.
At this point, you may not want to....
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We do indeed need to study what happened with the British and Soviets in the same mideastern region.

Anyone remember the Revolutionary War with George Washington fighting to survive with time on his said. The British had to fight to win while all he had to do what fight to not lose.

It was the same situation when the Soviets were in Afghanistan. The Afghan rebels, including Osama were fighting to not lose. Time was on their side. The Soviets had to fight to win, and it became a war of attrition - how long could they finance an invasion. They went broke in pursuit of Empire.

It is sheer arrogance to think this could never happen to America. The cost of Iraq alone is $12 billion a month and the longterm expense is in excess of three trillion dollars. Our current national debt is $9.2 trillion while our longterm unfunded fiscal commitments calculated each year by the GAO is estimated in the $63 trillion.
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