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Old 02-05-2008, 12:40 AM
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If you read the Blackwater book they mention some of things going on in and around the Caspian sea.
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As anyone can clearly see, this is a mere diatribe against "the cocksure United States of America," as the author, Valentin Zorin, cavalierly puts it. And in case anyone didn't notice, there is a link at the bottom of the page to "Valentin Zorin, Voice of Russia, 2007." Which begs the question: Why, exactly, should we accept as The Undisputed Truth the special pleadings of an apologist for Mother Russia?
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Moreover, as America becomes an increasingly multi-cultural society, it may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat.
Just another good argument against multiculturalism. Yes, we are indeed a multi-racial, multi-ethnic society; and that is a good thing. But multiculturalism is not working in Canada (where the French-speaking residents of Quebec would prefer their own country). It did not work in the former Yugoslavia. Or in the late Saddam Hussein's Iraq. It is not working in Chechnya. Or in Kosovo. Or anywhere else I can think of.

Yet some people seem to have fallen in love with the theory, irrespective of the facts.

America has always been great because of its policy of assimilation--not the postmodern (and politically correct) doctrine of multiculturalism.
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Thank you, everyone for participating in this thread. I will comment on your posts in few days.
I just have not time right now.
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A fight in Ukraine's parliament over NATO membership....

Ukraine's parliament opens second session amid opposition protest

05/ 02/ 2008



KIEV, February 5 (RIA Novosti) - Ukrainian parliamentary speaker, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, closed parliament's first session on Tuesday and opened its second, despite opposition attempts to block work by the Supreme Rada.

The attempt to obstruct work by the country's parliament was in protest at moves by the country's leaders toward membership of NATO.

The country's former premier, Viktor Yanukovych, said on Monday that the opposition would call a halt to its obstruction of work by parliament only after the announcement of a referendum on the former Soviet republic joining NATO.

In January, Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko and Yatsenyuk sent a letter to the alliance's Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer expressing their hope that the country could join the action plan for joining NATO at a summit scheduled for early April in Bucharest.

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NATO Build-Up On Russia's Borders

Worst Treachery Since Munich 1938

by Valentin Zorin

Allow me to start off with a personal recollection. I accompanied Mikhail Gorbachev on his visit to the United States of America almost seventeen years ago, and attended, as another adviser, Gorbachev’s meetings with George Bush Sr., and that gave me a rare chance to watch what historians of the future will surely be inclined to describe as the biggest breach of confidence and compare to the notoriously known Munich agreement between France and Britain, on the one hand, and Nazi Germany, on the other.

Mikhail Gorbachev and George Bush Sr. focused on the reunification of divided Germany. President Bush saw the reunification of Germany as a fundamental factor of continental stability and global detente.

He repeatedly assured Soviet leader Gorbachev that the reunification of Germany would never take the North Atlantic Alliance closer to the Soviet border. I can still open my old notebook or play back an old tape to recall what he said: “The allied forces will not be inching closer to your border.”

The arrival of NATO forces at the border of Russia translates into more than a threat to the Russian Federation. Russia will find a way to meet this threat. The American super-hawks had better remember that Russia remains a powerful country with impressive stocks of nuclear missiles.

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Just a question. Why would NATO NEED to get closer to Russia?
Maybe to get Vlad Putin to reconsider his desire to rebuild Russia into a superpower. Maybe to intimidate him into withdrawing his opposition to Kosovo independence. Maybe to intimidate him into withdrawing support for Iran. Maybe all of the above.
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Maybe to get Vlad Putin to reconsider his desire to rebuild Russia into a superpower. Maybe to intimidate him into withdrawing his opposition to Kosovo independence. Maybe to intimidate him into withdrawing support for Iran. Maybe all of the above.
Chan, you are trying to answer a question which was asked on the first page of this thread, but we discussed this already on the second page:

"Ever since the continents started interacting politically, some five hundred years ago, Eurasia has been the center of world power." - (p. xiii)
Zbigniew Brzezinski "The Grand Chessboard"

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What if Vladimir Vladimirovich is not intimidated and chooses to demonstrate?.
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What if Vladimir Vladimirovich is not intimidated and chooses to demonstrate?.
Why do Russians always have redundant names? Like Nikoli Nikolayovich. Weird...
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If you read the Blackwater book they mention some of things going on in and around the Caspian sea.
Have you read it? If so do you care to share?

I say let NATO have a go. As long as it doesn't involve America. We need to get out of Europe completely and let the Europeans deal with their life alone! Just like they have done to America. I feel no pity for them. But America needs to leave NOW!

We will have to deal with the Russians sooner or later. I say do it later. She wants to be the Super Power let her have it. Spend that money and bring back the gulags.
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Why do Russians always have redundant names? Like Nikoli Nikolayovich. Weird...
Its a "patronymic" , the first name of the father is the middle name of the child. Vladimir is one of the most common names and it derives from the Russian word 'vladet' ...to rule. 'Mir' means world. The first most famous Vladimir is St. Vladimir who converted his people to Christianity en masse...burning the cities idols and tossing all who protested into the river where priests performed mass baptisms. Its our way.......
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