Well, that's unecessarily snarky. Way to contribute.

(No idea why people are leaving this forum.......)

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I'm not sure why razor wire would cause any strong "international incidents." Admittedly, some people--among them, many Americans on the open-border left--would complain loudly, and compare the fence with the infamous Berlin Wall of decades past. But the inability of some to differentiate between a fence intended to imprison the local citizenry and one intended to keep out intruders suggests a lack of seriousness on the part of such people; either that, or a willful misinterpretation of the facts at hand.

As for the matter of potential electrocution, there should be frequently posted signs--in Spanish--warning of the danger. Anyone choosing to ignore such warnings could have only himself to blame. (It is impossible to draw a useful analogy between this situation and the one of a private homeowner in the US, given the fact that we have become an enormously litigious society. What might be grounds for a lawsuit against an individual American homeowner--and which might even prevail (or might not)--would not provide similar grounds for a suit against the US government.)

I'd be far more in favor of what pjohn's suggesting (the razor wire and electrics), as opposed to armed guard towers and shoot-to-kill philosophies. One's defensive, and the other is clearly aggressively hostile.

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Since the traitor in the WH, jorge, who betrays the American citizens daily, has decided to build a single layer, easily penetrated, easily breached fence, that is designed to fail, I'm all for adding razor wire and electrifying the fence. They've actually added razor wire in a few places already. But, blatant hispanders like jorge or Mcshame or Hussein would, of course, NEVER electrify the fence.

In just talking about the concept of electrifying the fence though, I think it's a great idea. It would have a major impact on stopping break ins. 'Oh you condone killing children who might touch an electrified fence?', the pro illegals will say. No, but children get killed simply playing in the street every day too. The parents of any children killed by touching an electrified fence would be the ones responsible.

How am I pro-mexico?

And why wouldn't an arab stand out to mexicans? Not many muslims in Mexico - pretty much catholic. All brown skinned people may look the same to you - bu the fact the guy can't speak spanish and bows to mecca will be an interesting abberation in Nogales

So, I find it equallly interesting that you feel a person has to be anti-mexico to be credible!

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Well, we laughed our asses off when we learned they were putting them in the AZ desert - they have had regular breakdowns. And irregular breakdowns.

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Too true - on both accounts!

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Mexico has our back? That sound a lot like pro Mexico. Someone apparently totally opposed to building a border fence has no ill feelings towards Mexico for dumping 10,000 illegal Mexican scabs a day on the US, which is the reason we are building a fence. You're just full of agendas aren't you. Yeah.

Brown skinned people don't look the same to you because you're....to? Do the arabs dressed to look like Mexicans bow to mecca as they cross the border?

In your situation, that you have described, I see no particular reason for you to be pro Mexico unless you're Mexican too and a pro illegal with an agenda to boot.

Arabs just don't really look like Mexicans.

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Phenomenal!

Thanks for the geography lesson there hot dog.

And thanks for not one but two direct personal insults. Classy guy you are.

I'm well aware of the situation surrounding the border security measures taken in the cities of Ceuta and Melilla (perhaps you can learn how to spell?).
You claim they are working 'just fine'...

Just cuz you say it, don't make it so:

"There is considerable pressure by African refugees to enter Melilla, a part of the European Union. The border is secured by the Melilla border fence, a six-meter-tall double fence with watch towers, yet refugees frequently manage to cross it illegally, avoiding the attempts by Spanish police to take them back to their home countries. Detection wires, tear gas dispensers, radar, and day/night vision cameras are planned to increase security and prevent illegal immigration. In October 2005, over 700 sub-Saharan migrants tried to enter Spanish territory from the Moroccan border. Many of them were shot in the back by the Moroccan Gendarmerie. Amnesty International and Médecins Sans Frontières have accused the Moroccan government of dumping over 500 refugees in the Sahara Desert without food or water supplies."
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Is this what you'd like to see along the US/Mexico border?

You say the fence in Isreal 'works like a charm'. Do you honestly believe that? Then why do attacks continue as frequently as ever? The man most recently killed for attacking east Jerusalem lived within a 'fenced in' region. Doesn't seem to have done anyone much good.

You don't seem too terribly concerned with an honest discussion of this topic. You seem to be far more concerned with telling the rest of us that you're right, and we're wrong and the simple fact that someone disagrees with you automatically means they are either 'pro illegal' or 'pro-mexico' or both.

You favor a fence. Great. That's your right. Believe whatever you like. But unless or until you address the real issues that many people, myself included have brought up, it is simply laughable to here you question the credibility or loyalty of any other poster.

It's been real.

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