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I was glad to read about this. We need to see this done more often. I especially liked reading some of the comments that followed the article since they contradict some of the alleged "facts" that keep being repeated such as illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans won't do. That is a lie. The fact is that Americans don't want to work for such low wages so hiring illegals is the way for companies to keep from increasing wages to an amount the American worker feels is adequate.

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POSTVILLE, Iowa — Federal immigration agents in northeastern Iowa have arrested at least 300 people in a raid on the world’s largest kosher meatpacking plant.

U.S. Attorney Matt M. Dummermuth says the raid on the Agriprocessors Inc. plant in Postville is the largest operation of its kind in Iowa history and followed months of planning.
Authorities arrived at the plant, located in the southwestern corner of Allamakee County, about

10 a.m. and presented company officials with search warrants. Agents asked to speak with all the employees, and plant officials cooperated and shut down their operations.

The raid was aimed at seeking evidence of identity theft, stolen Social Security numbers and for people who are in the country illegally, said Tim Counts, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman.

Sister Mary McCauley, a Roman Catholic nun at St. Bridget’s Catholic Church in Postville, said

family members of plant workers came to the nearby church in tears.

“The people right now are hearing and seeing the helicopters,” McCauley said Monday morning. “They are just panic-stricken and very frightened and some of them are coming to the church as a safe haven.“

The church is about five blocks from the plant, she said.

She said rumors began swirling around the community on Friday about an upcoming raid, leaving many people worried.

She said Immigration officials arrived with buses, vans and two helicopters.

Many of the plant workers are Hispanic, mostly from Mexico and Guatemala, she said
Hundreds arrested in raid at Iowa meatpacking plant : La Crosse Tribune
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It's about time they start cracking down on illegal immigration and identity theft. Should have done this a long time ago.
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I was glad to read about this. We need to see this done more often. I especially liked reading some of the comments that followed the article since they contradict some of the alleged "facts" that keep being repeated such as illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans won't do. That is a lie. The fact is that Americans don't want to work for such low wages so hiring illegals is the way for companies to keep from increasing wages to an amount the American worker feels is adequate.
Excellent article Lumara and I couldn't agree more. Go ICE! Round 'em up, cage 'em and ship their as*ses back to where they came from.
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All most American workers want is to be able to stay ahead of inflation and give their children better educations and a better start in life. A proper wage and the bennies needed to go with that and simple pay increases.
Not one of them is asking for 20-40 million for doing nothing more than firing enough employees to work the books or have earnings increase due to the pratical process.

This should be done in every plant where wages are low and then followed up again and again. Done enough times will cause a profit loss so the owners get the message and do what is right.
But lets not forget the boarder, they still come in floods. I say let them join the armed forces and give them the language skills as well as the computer skills to be 21 century warriors. Do their time and then become citzens. Now that would gives us more than enough troopers. But pay them while in service what they would get at the plants. But let each have full GI Bill rights... Am I being to tough here.

I only suggest this because then they won't be back in 10-30 days starting it all over again.
This is about the same news but has much more info..Hundreds arrested in Iowa immigration raid - USATODAY.com
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POSTVILLE, Iowa — A raid by federal immigration officials at the nation's largest kosher meatpacking plant may have resulted in as many as 700 arrests, immigration officials said Monday
Agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement entered the Agriprocessors Inc. complex in northeast Iowa Monday morning to execute a criminal search warrant for evidence relating to aggravated identity theft, fraudulent use of Social Security numbers and other crimes, said Tim Counts, a Midwest ICE spokesman.

Agents are also executing a civil search warrant for people illegally in the United States, he said.

Immigration officials told aides to Rep. Bruce Braley, D-Iowa, that they expect 600 to 700 arrests. About 1,000 to 1,050 people work at the plant, according to Iowa Workforce Development, the state's employment services agency.

Chuck Larson, a truck driver for Agriprocessing, was in the plant when the agents arrived. "There has to be 100 of them," he said of the agents.


Larson said the agents told workers to stay in place then separated them by asking those with identification to stand to the right and those with other papers, to stand to the left.

"There was plenty of hollering," Larson said. "You couldn't go anywhere."

When asked who was separated, Larson said those standing in the group with other papers were all Hispanic.


PHOENIX: 53 illegal immigrants held against will

ICE spokesman Harold Ort in Postville did not confirm or deny that anyone had been detained, but went on to say that the children of those detained would be cared for and that "their caregiver situation will be addressed."

"They were asked multiple times if they have any sole-caregiver issues or any childcare issues," Ort said.

Aides to Braley said they have been told that "hundreds" of arrests are expected because the action is more of an "investigation" than an immigration raid, and specific individuals are being targeted for arrest as part of the investigation.

Counts described the events in Postville as a "single site operation." He said he was not aware of any other immigration raids being conducted elsewhere Monday.

Postville Police Chief Michael Halse said he did not know anything about the raid until Monday morning.

Postville is a community of more than 2,500 people that includes natives of German and Norwegian heritage and newcomers who include Hasidic Jews from New York, plus immigrants from Mexico, Russian, Ukraine and many other countries.

The Agriprocessors plant, known as the nation's largest kosher slaughterhouse, is northeast Iowa's largest employer.

About 200 Hasidic Jews arrived in Postville in 1987, when butcher Aaron Rubashkin of Brooklyn's Crown Heights neighborhood reopened a defunct meat-packing plant with his two sons, Sholom and Heshy, just outside the city limits. Business boomed at the plant, reviving the depressed economy while pitting the newcomers against the predominantly Lutheran community.

Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack said that the Postville immigration investigations were warranted despite concerns that federal official violated the constitutional rights of people in past raids.

"Remember our concern has not been about whether or not there should be raids," Vilsack said. "It's the way the raids have been conducted and the way in which American citizens' rights have been violated by virtue of sort of a roundup process that's used and what we think are inappropriate and unconstitutional actions on the part of immigration officials."

Vilsack and others have alleged that immigration officials used humiliation, opposite-sex searches and long periods of secrecy in the Dec. 12, 2006, raids at Swift & Co. in Marshalltown, Iowa, where 90 people were arrested on immigration charges.



Contributing: Jane Norman, The Des Moines Register
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I was glad to read about this. We need to see this done more often. I especially liked reading some of the comments that followed the article since they contradict some of the alleged "facts" that keep being repeated such as illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans won't do. That is a lie. The fact is that Americans don't want to work for such low wages so hiring illegals is the way for companies to keep from increasing wages to an amount the American worker feels is adequate.
Will they also be arresting and confiscating the property of the employers who hired these illegal aliens? Or will they be allowed to rehire new illegals after the hoopla has died down?
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Will they also be arresting and confiscating the property of the employers who hired these illegal aliens? Or will they be allowed to rehire new illegals after the hoopla has died down?
That's a good question, Stripey. I don't knowthe law but I've read there is at least one on the books that fines employers who hire illegals. The problem is that these laws penalizing employers aren't usually enforced. I sure hope that changes.
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Will they also be arresting and confiscating the property of the employers who hired these illegal aliens? Or will they be allowed to rehire new illegals after the hoopla has died down?

Did you read the beginning of my post above yours? make then=m do it again and again and still again till the lose time and profit and wake up and pay regular wages and hire people with the proper paper works, like US Citizens.
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Will they also be arresting and confiscating the property of the employers who hired these illegal aliens? Or will they be allowed to rehire new illegals after the hoopla has died down?
Hopefully the powers that be enforce the existing laws that penelize these employers. Time will tell.
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I figure if your business' margin is so razor thin as to need to hire illegals to avoid paying the normal, living wages, you might want to re-think whether you need to be in business.

The trend towards going after businesses that hire illegals is good, but I wonder what kind of protections, or verification systems are in place for them. I'd hate to see businesses destroyed based on a mistake or two, or because they didn;t have the resources to verify. (Seems a bit like entrapment)
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That's a good question, Stripey. I don't knowthe law but I've read there is at least one on the books that fines employers who hire illegals. The problem is that these laws penalizing employers aren't usually enforced. I sure hope that changes.

me too... cuz if they started arresting and confiscating all the properties of those who HIRE the illegals, I guarantee you the market will dry up in an instant.
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