Originally Posted by mlurp

It is all of our fault from the Blue Bloods down to each citzen. And the Mexican dovt. for not creating jobs for their people.

Originally Posted by rogue

I WAS going to just keep my mouth shut but I've changed my mind. Some of the anti illegal crowd, of which I'm a staunch member of, obviously have no problem with bashing illegal aliens but seem to draw the line when it comes to holding the employers of illegals with having much responsibility for the illegal Mexican invasion, just because they provide the jobs magnet that draws the illegals here. They'll blame the gov and Mexico but not the employers of illegals that provide the jobs magnet. Could it be some of that good ole boy Republican stick togetherness we hear about? Apparently they don't want to come after the employers, 'cause the employers are just trying to help their bottom line' or 'I'd probably do the same thing'. What they want, it seems, is to try to seal the border and try to stop the supply of illegal labor itself and not penalize the employers of illegals. How has that worked? Especially since the gov is in the the hip pocket of big business.

Sadly and dishearteningly this is delusional self denial, because we're NEVER going to stop illegal immigration until the jobs magnet provided by the employers of illegals is stopped. The acid test is: if the jobs magnet that the employers of illegals provide that draws the illegals here in the first place was somehow stopped would the illegal Mexican horde still keep coming? Of course not.

Originally Posted by pjohns

You make a very valid point: Far too many of my fellow Republicans are so supportive of business interests that they are inclined to look the other way when it comes to the issue of illegal immigration. (Others--and I include both George W. Bush and John McCain among these--seem chiefly interested in competing for the large, and ever-growing, Hispanic vote. But this is hardly a principled--or inspiring--position, either.)

As you have noted, tough employer sanctions, such as Arizona and Oklahoma have enacted, will get the attention of those whose businesses serve as a very large magnet for illegals. Anything less than that is an indication that our elected representatives are not really serious about our addressing the problem, and enforcing our national sovereignty--without which, it becomes impossible to assert our status as a serious nation-state.