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Old 01-30-2008, 01:33 PM
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Nah! Fox is the home of such unbiased people as Bill (no homeless vets) O'Reilly, Rush (the cigar) Limbaugh, and cameo appearances from Ann (the rabid witch) Coulter.
Hey, don't insult witches by comparing Ann Coulter to them! :DD I'd say she's more of a wacko than anything else. The woman is not right, except in her politics.
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:20 AM
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Of course the illegals ought to be eligible for tax rebates - because they paid the taxes in the first place.

If you want to prevent illegals from getting tax rebates, maybe you ought to stop forcing them to pay taxes in the first place?

Besides, the 'tax rebate' game is not a 'reward' for American citizens. It is an economic stimulus plan. It is like dumping money out the window of an airplane. It doesn't matter who gets the money as long as they turn around and spend it.

But hey, why talk about a plan to stimulate the economy when one can posture about the evils of brown people instead?
Darn the illegals and all y'all that support them, if your so-called brown skin people wasn't such cowards they would have stay home and help rule their country instead of sneaking in here like the crooks they are,,, and from the way you talk about the "ILLEGALS", I bet you are kin to them or your making money off them..:ugly:
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:02 AM
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The only scenario where I could see the stimulus package going to illegals as being acceptable is if they took the money and spent it in America, which is the whole idea behind the plan in the first place. However, if they take the money and send it back to Mexico, well then, it would just be stupid. I see no problem with giving the stimulus package to legal immigrants who pay taxes. Of coarse, I have reservations about the package to begin with. It is very Keynesian, which isn't necessarily bad, but by definition, not concerned with long term stability.
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Old 02-05-2008, 09:23 AM
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I saw this topic at Political Wrinkles with an excellent reply about the three categories of LEGAL temporary immigrants for getting green cards. They pay income taxes. The term "illegal" is being purposely used here by Fox to inflame the public. They are legal so the term needs to get dropped.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:05 PM
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Illegals Eligible For "tax Rebate" In Stimulus Pkg!!!!

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Subject: Big problems for econ stimulus
This illegal immigrant provision will likely explode in the Senate. I could imagine someone like Jeff Sessions trying to block the bill because of it. (Checking on this.) We should consider looking at more problems with this bill, as well.
Sen Baucus, a tax writer in the Senate -- albeit w/ his own motives and own stimulus package he's promoting -- says his tax experts are telling him the House-passed measure's rebate structure is IMMENSELY complicated.
So -- will Americans be able to easily figure out if they qualify for this rebate? Easily get the rebate IF they do qualify??
Might want to get a tax expert of our own to look at the bill.
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Subject: Illegal Immigrants eligible for rebates from Hse. Stimulus Package
Urgent: Illegal Immigrants eligible for rebates from Hse. Stimulus Package Per Pergram-Capitol Hill
Fox News has learned that illegal immigrants are eligible for $300 to $600 rebates promised in the bipartisan, economic stimulus package. The plan was approved by an overwhelming supermajority today on the House floor.
Some illegal immigrants pay taxes. They may not be U.S. citizens. But they are assigned Individual Taxpayer Indentification Number (ITIN) which enables them to file. Thus, if they file taxes, they are eligible for a rebate check.
For these purposes, illegal immigrants are those who quality as "Resident Aliens" are eligible. Resident aliens are those who spend a "substantial" amount of time in the U.S. and have not been deported.
Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) said that the bill will certainly stimulate "more illegal immigration."
Opponents of the illegal immigrant eligibility provision point out that the House considered the bill under "suspension of the rules." Suspension provisions allow the House to expedite bills and don't open them up to the usual amending process.


IF THEY CAN FIND THEM TO GIVE THEM THEIR "TAX REBATE" CHECK...THEY CAN FIND THEM TO DEPORT THEM, AND THEN PUNISH THEIR EMPLOYERS!!!!


What does one except from a corrupt and broken government. Even the plan to help Americans is a promotion for what they all want (Big Business) support of illegals. And as it is written won't cover the many American in need of the puny help offered. But be sure many of the illegals will get paper work and PO Boxes or address so they collect the $1,200.00 plus the extra for the children.
But the Americans in need will be passed over.
Our broken government will waste another couple billion just to support the illegals and big business desire to have them here. Shame on all of the Congress and Senate. And "F" the rest of this government and it's policies that has put the middle class on the road to ruin.
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Hey, don't insult witches by comparing Ann Coulter to them! :DD I'd say she's more of a wacko than anything else. The woman is not right, except in her politics.
on Fox with Hanity and Combs and she is a real wacko in the political arena as well. Just IMHO.....:-)
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They are not illegal immigrants, they are legal immigrants holding green cards for work and meeting requirements to keep the cards. They pay taxes like the rest of us.
If they hold green cards and pay taxes, I see no problem with this.
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Lumara: You are right! My apology for insulting any witches reading this in comparing them to Ann Coulter. Please direct all evil spells at Fox News. It is all their fault!!

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:06 AM
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Darn the illegals and all y'all that support them, if your so-called brown skin people wasn't such cowards they would have stay home and help rule their country instead of sneaking in here like the crooks they are,,, and from the way you talk about the "ILLEGALS", I bet you are kin to them or your making money off them..:ugly:
I'm seriously thinking about moving out of Alabama. Between sentiments like this and Mike Huckabee's fundies voting for him to win my state I think I'd be better off living some place a little more reasonable. I am so embarrassed by the people who live in Alabama.
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Fox News has learned that illegal immigrants are eligible for $300 to $600 rebates promised in the bipartisan, economic stimulus package.
Please cite the Fox News article that said this. Your post quotes someone's email about it.
Was it actually reported on Fox that way, or was it only discussed as a possible article in internal email?
Just wondering, I think taxpayers would qualify for the "stimulus" check, immigrant (legal) or citizen.
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