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Old 01-10-2008, 01:06 PM
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A real simple question i have yet to hear a good answer for. Why has history blamed the USSR and Cuba for this, given that the USSR's positioning of the missiles was a respone to the US positioning missiles in Turkey and aiming them at the USSR ? I would have thought the Soviet response was exactly what would be expected. If you aim nuclear missiles at a country who also has these weapons you must expect retaliation. It would be iresponsible for any government to allow another state to threaten to wipe its people out without making some sort of response.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:12 PM
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:23 PM
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A real simple question i have yet to hear a good answer for. Why has history blamed the USSR and Cuba for this, given that the USSR's positioning of the missiles was a respone to the US positioning missiles in Turkey and aiming them at the USSR ? I would have thought the Soviet response was exactly what would be expected. If you aim nuclear missiles at a country who also has these weapons you must expect retaliation. It would be iresponsible for any government to allow another state to threaten to wipe its people out without making some sort of response.
Same as Miriya's point really, the USSR didn't write history and we live under an agressive capitalism at the moment.
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Old 01-10-2008, 01:29 PM
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That is the only decent answer i have ever got. Most people try to justify the line that it was the USSR's fault. But really it just seems to be a form of Victors Justice.
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A real simple question i have yet to hear a good answer for. Why has history blamed the USSR and Cuba for this, given that the USSR's positioning of the missiles was a respone to the US positioning missiles in Turkey and aiming them at the USSR ? I would have thought the Soviet response was exactly what would be expected. If you aim nuclear missiles at a country who also has these weapons you must expect retaliation. It would be iresponsible for any government to allow another state to threaten to wipe its people out without making some sort of response.
I agree with others here that the victors write the history but I think one possible answer is that the United States portrays itself as the good guy, making the world safe for "democracy" (even though the United States is a constitutional republic and not a democracy), defender of liberty, etc. USSR, then, was the epitome of totalitarian oppression and a perceived threat to everything good and decent in the world.

The truth of the matter is, though, that the United States had no business interfering in the internal affairs of other countries and, so, should not have been bullying Turkey and other European countries into letting it park a bunch of nukes in their backyard.
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A real simple question i have yet to hear a good answer for. Why has history blamed the USSR and Cuba for this...
You obviously didn't learn about the issue from Russian or Cuban history books - they certainly would see the issue differently.

As far as I'm concerned, the Cuban missile crisis showed two things. The Russians were imperialist warmongers and the Americans were imperialist warmongers.

May the better imperialist warmonger win.

And it did.
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You obviously didn't learn about the issue from Russian or Cuban history books - they certainly would see the issue differently.

As far as I'm concerned, the Cuban missile crisis showed two things. The Russians were imperialist warmongers and the Americans were imperialist warmongers.

May the better imperialist warmonger win.

And it did.
Yeh, the Americans were better at imperialistic war-mongering.
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Kennedy had to keep face. It was bone headed move that nearly landed us into WWIII. Kruschev was justified and our military morons who put the missles there in the first place were just that -- morons. Thankfully both leaders were cool headed enough not to go to war over it.
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both sides were at fault to a degree in the heat of the cold war (hmmm that sounds odd oh well)
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