Okay let's have a good historical discussion: who do you think are the heroes in the history of the world? Likewise who do you think are the villians?

Mine include the following:
Heroes: MLK, George Washington, Gandhi, Truman, Thomas Jefferson

Villians: Hitler (of course), Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Andrew Jackson, Osama bin Laden, Robert Mugabe, Kim Jong-Il, Kim Il-Sung, Fred Phelps

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"I find no black men appealing, they look like giant monkeys." -LilithIshtar (some member of another forum I used to be part of)

Simon Bolivar is a hero, as well as San Martin.

Fidel Castro is a hero of history and a villain of the present. Figure that one out.

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"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch

Fidel Castro is also out of power now and is going to keel over any day now.

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"I find no black men appealing, they look like giant monkeys." -LilithIshtar (some member of another forum I used to be part of)

He's been about to keel over any day now for the last two years!

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"Have you no decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-Joseph Welch

Heroes: Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. No men championed personal liberty like they did.

Villains: Humanity at large. Wars of today are waged because, like most other problems, the people demand them. Financial problems, famine, corruption, and all other manner of problem are caused not by a select few evil men, but by a species dedicated to making their lives more comfortable at the expense of others.

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"Bring me that horizon".

Not very optimistic are you, heros - 2 dead guys, villains - Everyone.

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Set your destination with your heart, get there with your mind.

"The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

Well I'd say everyone's who's not committing any sort of crime or hindering humanity in any way don't count as villians.

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"I find no black men appealing, they look like giant monkeys." -LilithIshtar (some member of another forum I used to be part of)

I'll make myself popular, I don't consider Gandhi a hero because of his views in WW2 towards the british and the Jews.

I believe that FDR is a hero, not a villain.

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Set your destination with your heart, get there with your mind.

"The wisest men follow their own direction." - Euripides

What exactly did he say about the Jews that was so bad?

Even after he treated German, Japanese and Italian-Americans like crap when he imprisoned them all?

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"I find no black men appealing, they look like giant monkeys." -LilithIshtar (some member of another forum I used to be part of)

They aren't PAST history, but fortunately they will soon be history - I'd place GW Bush and Cheney on the Villains list.

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Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."