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Old 10-05-2008, 08:18 PM
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The Six Day War was in 1967.
1967 was in the timeline,was it not? Yes,the IDF bombed and obliterated Egypt's air force on the morning of June 5,1967. The other dates were references to Israel's War of Independence(1948) Sinai campaign (1956) Yom Kippur War (1973) and War in Lebanon(1982)
Incidentally,I include the '82 war because although started against the PLO it widened into a war between Israel and it's archenemy,Syria.The Syrians were foolish enough to engage the Israelis both in the air and on the ground in the Bekaa valley-with predictable results.
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1967 was in the timeline,was it not? Yes,the IDF bombed and obliterated Egypt's air force on the morning of June 5,1967. The other dates were references to Israel's War of Independence(1948) Sinai campaign (1956) Yom Kippur War (1973) and War in Lebanon(1982)
Incidentally,I include the '82 war because although started against the PLO it widened into a war between Israel and it's archenemy,Syria.The Syrians were foolish enough to engage the Israelis both in the air and on the ground in the Bekaa valley-with predictable results.
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It follows that the war itself and events taking place after the war can't be used as events contributing to the outbreak of the war.
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It follows that the war itself and events taking place after the war can't be used as events contributing to the outbreak of the war.
Kid, Do your parents know you are playing on the computer? You stated that the war was in 1967 (like I didn't know that) so I go back to my previous question. What is your point? Leave history to the pros unless you want to debate a specific point which,from your previous posts,I don't think you are capable of....
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Kid, Do your parents know you are playing on the computer? You stated that the war was in 1967 (like I didn't know that) so I go back to my previous question. What is your point? Leave history to the pros unless you want to debate a specific point which,from your previous posts,I don't think you are capable of....
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You aren't a "pro" by any standard. Your attempts to defame me due to my age are also rather amusing.

My point is this (somehow I knew I'd have to break it down a bit for you):

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Israelis instigated the Six-Day War? Come on! The Arabs were humiliated continously on the battlefield(1948,1956,1967,1973,1982 in Lebanon)
The dates italicized come after the Six-Day War. Then, you type this:

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What they couldn't accomplish on the battlefield they decided to try on the airlines.Nasser closes the Straits of Tiran,colludes with Jordan and Syria,orders out the UN peacekeepers and then cries when Israel kicks his butt.
Which, presumably, refers to the Six-Day War.

If you were using these battlefield humiliations as events leading up to the war, it wouldn't make any sense since they came after the war.
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Look,I will spell it out for you. The Israelis defeated the Arabs during the War of Independence(1948-49),Sinai campaign(1956),Six-Day war(1967).These humiliations caused a good portion of the Muslim world to resort to fanatacism in their impotence and frustration.Period.The Yom Kippur War(1973) and Lebanese war(1982) only solidified this.You are simply parsing dates to make an argument you are incapable of making on substance.
Look,I read constantly.I don't get my history from the liberal press or an Oliver Stone movie.If you read as well,great...you will learn many things.But there is a problem here for you. I have devoured hundreds of books more than you simply because I am 21 years older than you.It is impossible for you to be able to trade knowledge with me,and that's assuming you read ALOT of books.But your welcome to try.CH
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Look,I will spell it out for you. The Israelis defeated the Arabs during the War of Independence(1948-49),Sinai campaign(1956),Six-Day war(1967).These humiliations caused a good portion of the Muslim world to resort to fanatacism in their impotence and frustration.Period.
I know, I'm not sure what this proves. Germany's "humiliating" defeat in World War 1 also caused it to resort to fanaticism. This tends to happen.

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The Yom Kippur War(1973) and Lebanese war(1982) only solidified this.You are simply parsing dates to make an argument you are incapable of making on substance.
I'm not even making an argument yet, just trying to get to the bottom of some confusion in your posts.

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Look,I read constantly.I don't get my history from the liberal press or an Oliver Stone movie.If you read as well,great...you will learn many things.But there is a problem here for you. I have devoured hundreds of books more than you simply because I am 21 years older than you.It is impossible for you to be able to trade knowledge with me,and that's assuming you read ALOT of books.But your welcome to try.CH
Don't care. You've already proven yourself to be someone who's resorted to fanaticism, to say nothing of historical revisionism, in his impotence and frustration.
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