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Old 12-18-2007, 06:55 AM
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I believe Moses was a Jew. Jesus christ at first was a jew but when he died then Christianty was formed. Jesus christ was a man of peace. None of these man even comes ****ing close to what Muhammed and his "generals" had done to the world. The muslim march done the street in cut there children with knifes and blame the woman even after getting raped for everything. Whats peaceful about it.
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Old 12-18-2007, 07:07 AM
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Jesus never wished death on any one unlike Muhammed, which lead a army and killed people. He had his generals take over large area of asia,middle east after his death. In they killed more and more people. Jesus died for sins and hoped humans would try to work things out, the IRA is not following Jesus's word at all. Also Muslims at least parts I've seen believe that the unbelieve has to pay a tax and be a second class in any country that is muslim. Also they believe that its all Allah's will. Big difference.
You are an uninformed/badly informed racist to all intents and purposes. Did Allah tell George W Bush to go to war in Iraq? No, neither did the Christian God but there are wars allowed in Christianity. At least Muhammed didn't sleep with a prostitute! No, the IRA didn't follow Jesus's word but terrorists don't follow Muhammed's.
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You are an uninformed/badly informed racist to all intents and purposes. Did Allah tell George W Bush to go to war in Iraq? No, neither did the Christian God but there are wars allowed in Christianity. At least Muhammed didn't sleep with a prostitute! No, the IRA didn't follow Jesus's word but terrorists don't follow Muhammed's.
Prove me wrong with hard links to support your thinking, if not then your the uninformed one. No Jesus or Allah did not tell Bush to go into Iraq, that was ****ing finishing what his father had started in the first gulf war. Nothing to do with god. Sure there is going to be wars we are human right, but islam and Muhammed takes the cake in that area. The thing is to make war the less as possible if we want to survive. I wish we could form our global government in get along for once, but because of these two things that is not likely in the near future.
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Prove me wrong with hard links to support your thinking, if not then your the uninformed one. No Jesus or Allah did not tell Bush to go into Iraq, that was ****ing finishing what his father had started in the first gulf war. Nothing to do with god. Sure there is going to be wars we are human right, but islam and Muhammed takes the cake in that area. The thing is to make war the less as possible if we want to survive. I wish we could form our global government in get along for once, but because of these two things that is not likely in the near future.
Please use proper English, even if your argument makes no sense.

What "hard links" do you want me to use, my argument is based on logic and knowledge of the Qu'ran and the Bible. Just read the old testament for 15 minutes and you will see ridiculous statements. There are many such statements in the Qu'ran of course but far fewer and there are also many things that make a lot of sense. You are the one who needs to provide evidence for your statements, why does Islam "take the cake".

And please don't swear it's vulgar and unnecassary.
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Please use proper English, even if your argument makes no sense.

What "hard links" do you want me to use, my argument is based on logic and knowledge of the Qu'ran and the Bible. Just read the old testament for 15 minutes and you will see ridiculous statements. There are many such statements in the Qu'ran of course but far fewer and there are also many things that make a lot of sense. You are the one who needs to provide evidence for your statements, why does Islam "take the cake".

And please don't swear it's vulgar and unnecassary.
I've never read straight from the koran but have seen quotes that appear to be writen from the devil. Like kill the jew were ever you see them, kill the unbeliever. It also says treat the unbelieve as a second class person pretty much and have a tax on them. To start in a long line of them. Is that right, by your read of it. Jesus never wished death on humans and Christianity is pretty much made from his word. On the other hand Muhammed you could put to Patton as he rolled his tanks through Germany. In Muhammeds used his means in that day to invade and take over land.

The humans that made the bible might of really drived off the deep in. But most of the stuff is not close to the Koran and the other book of islam.
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I believe Moses was a Jew. Jesus christ at first was a jew but when he died then Christianty was formed. Jesus christ was a man of peace. None of these man even comes ****ing close to what Muhammed and his "generals" had done to the world. The muslim march done the street in cut there children with knifes and blame the woman even after getting raped for everything. Whats peaceful about it.
thats right, and what what i meant, killing of judisme, would mean killing of al the ofsprings of it, I think by the time of moses he was the only branch of relgion there was, which means killing itof there would change the world for ever



BTW here is a quote from the bible hope you like it,
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"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. Whoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. He that sacrificeth unto any god, save to the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed." (Exodus 22:18-20)
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thats right, and what what i meant, killing of judisme, would mean killing of al the ofsprings of it, I think by the time of moses he was the only branch of relgion there was, which means killing itof there would change the world for ever



BTW here is a quote from the bible hope you like it,

Nope, it would of killed that kind but there would of still been human worship. Also the Greek gods and other things like it. So no it would not of destroyed relgion.

As for the quote, of course you should fight evil. Were ever it is.
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I've never read straight from the koran but have seen quotes that appear to be writen from the devil. Like kill the jew were ever you see them, kill the unbeliever. It also says treat the unbelieve as a second class person pretty much and have a tax on them. To start in a long line of them. Is that right, by your read of it. Jesus never wished death on humans and Christianity is pretty much made from his word. On the other hand Muhammed you could put to Patton as he rolled his tanks through Germany. In Muhammeds used his means in that day to invade and take over land.

The humans that made the bible might of really drived off the deep in. But most of the stuff is not close to the Koran and the other book of islam.
God was hardly a peaceful guy, despite saying thou shall not kill he killed 70,000 because david ordered a census, he also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. yeh real peaceful. They are only two examples, I can give you many more if you want. Jesus promoted castration in order to get into heaven. These things are not just in the old testament, to be forgotten, Jesus said ""It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid."
As for the Qu'ran, well it says that charity should be given (the poor-rate) to help the unfortunate. Note that the Qu'ran also says, "He who walks with peace walks with Him". It is ultimately a book of peace, with faults as you have highlighted, but no more than christianity.
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Nope, it would of killed that kind but there would of still been human worship. Also the Greek gods and other things like it. So no it would not of destroyed relgion.
thats what I mean, kill of those riligions which have caused killings for the last 1500 years
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Ps, I have started a topic about the bible, we can move the debate over there
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