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Old 12-16-2007, 05:56 PM
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If you look at the size of the astronaut's arm when he's next to the flag and its size when he goes by it and it moves, you'll see it's much bigger when he goes by the flag. He must be at least three or even four feet away from it so he couldn't have brushed it.
How do you know? You don't know if it's a fisheye lens or not, and you don't know the relative size of the flag or anything else.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:04 PM
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Hey, Cosmored, why did the government fake it? Why do all of the top scientists go along with it? Were they all fooled too? Is Neil Armstrong really a robot, or maybe an alien?

We know the composition of moon rocks because you can see from spectral absorption lines from moonlight. They're mostly plagioclase feldspar, pyroxene, olivine, and ilmenite.

All the sources you give are opinion and based on bad science. Hands-down.

On the tapes you claim were slowed down, if you look at the movement of their arms when sped up to "Earth gravity," you can see the motion is unnatural.

Here's a video for you: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1607808HkKNBXS6

Find one flaw in Mr. Killian's science, I implore you. From watching it, it looks pristine to me.
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Here's a video for you: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1607808HkKNBXS6

Find one flaw in Mr. Killian's science, I implore you. From watching it, it looks pristine to me.
I only had time to watch the first part about radiation in space. I'll watch the rest later.
All he's doing is parroting the official government version of how dangerous space radiation is. The government lies all the time so that isn't conclusive proof.
Here's some stuff I found on the internet about space radiation. Of course I'm not in a position to know for sure which version reflects reality; the only people who know the truth are people with high security clearances in governments who send probes into space.


http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
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There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.


Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ65d30kYME

two sets of radiation data
http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldogleb...oooo/id82.html
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To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
to
disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]

Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInf...Challenge.html
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...9659&hl=apollo


Here is some evidence that the US government lies about science.

There are lots of cases of the official version of things being contested by reputable people in the alternative press.

Look at what this report on DU by RAND says.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/l...9_bt170-99.htm
There were probably a few PH.D's working on it.

This woman has a PH.D.
http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...86402266517406
She holds the opposite view.

Look at what this person says about "Genetically modified foods".
http://www.projectcensored.org/censo...7/index.htm#11

Look at this.
http://www.rand.org/commentary/051204FT.html

This woman talks about how a lot of the science community has sold out.
GLOBAL NUCLEAR COVER UP part #1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...98989248030643
(around the 30 minute mark)

GLOBAL NUCLEAR COVER UP part #2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...32617120640846


If the government lies about other aspects of science, why can't it lie about radiation levels in space?

What do you think of what this guy says?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ

He has a PH.D. This is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:36 PM
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"A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon" is back online.
YouTube - A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon.Part 1

Watch it soon as it will probably go offline quickly as it always does.

Here's some more stuff.
YouTube - Moon Hoax- The Lies In Your Visors
YouTube - Moon Hoax- Moonsets Are Forever
YouTube - Moon Hoax- The Lies In Your Visors-Addendum
YouTube - Moon Landing Hoax-One Giant Spotlight For Mankind
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Old 12-30-2007, 04:42 PM
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Old 12-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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I remember going through this years ago. Spent The better part of a month to come up with nothing. Personally i think that there were way to many people involved for a scam of this magnitude to be pulled off.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:15 PM
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I think it would have taken more effort to pull off the scam than to go to the Moon. Just because something is unbelievable doesn't mean that it's impossible.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:23 PM
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You will never convince a conspiracy theorist for the simple reason that the stronger case you make, the more evidence you have...the less they will believe it. Stronger evidence indicates a bigger, more intricate conspiracy? Dude...don't you see? Everyone's in on it.
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Old 12-30-2007, 06:25 PM
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"Is it a coincidence that all the evidence disagrees with me? I think not!"
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