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Old 03-14-2008, 01:54 PM
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If we're a Christian nation, should we not still have slavery? It is, after all, anointed in both the Old & New Testaments.

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25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor.

Exodus (nothing like selling your daughter into sexual slavery)

21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

21:9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

21:11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.

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6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

I Timothy

6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
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If slavery is immoral, is the Bible then immoral?
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Slavery is only immoral because at a point in history someone said it was and the word spread. Having said that it still exists of course. The Bible can't be immoral because it's a collection of historical documents, well historical artifacts I suppose is closer. What it declares at any given time is a reflection of dominant values in whatever society each book was located in.
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We aren't a Christian nation.

The majority of the people living in the US may be Christian but that does not = a christian nation.

Most of our founding fathers were Deists not Christians, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison and Ben Franklin to name a few.


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If we're a Christian nation, should we not still have slavery? It is, after all, anointed in both the Old & New Testaments.

Leviticus

25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.

25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.

25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor.

Exodus (nothing like selling your daughter into sexual slavery)

21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

21:9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

21:10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

21:11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.

Ephesians

6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;

I Timothy

6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.

6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
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I'm aware that this is not a xtian nation. The question was rhetorical.
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New Testament slavery was not the slavery that the U.S. practiced. Unless this is a Jewish nation? But the system that the U.S. called slavery was not advocated in the New Testament which most Christians follow.
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New Testament slavery was not the slavery that the U.S. practiced. Unless this is a Jewish nation? But the system that the U.S. called slavery was not advocated in the New Testament which most Christians follow.
Explain this to us ...

I am all ear's ...

How is what the USA did so different?
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I am all ear's ...

How is what the USA did so different?
I want to know, as well...since "our beloved" was neither in the midst of Palestine during biblical times, nor at the core of American history, circa 1620-1865, his insight could only be from what he may have read, or heard, inaccurate as that may be. Slavery, like evil, like racism, like murder, is "black or white", and never "gray". You can't be "kinda" racist, evil, murderous, or "pro-slavery".

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