The Harry Come Home thread gave me the idea to make this one. Please submit famous or not so famous people from history who were rulers or governors. These people can be your role modal or a person from history who you thought should have gotten their blocks chopped off. Also, you can submit people who are alive today and/or who just act like aristocrats. Highlight what they did wrong or what they did right.

Therefore, my first entry is Emperor Norton I (first and last Emperor of the United States of America).

Read more about His Imperial Majesty here: Joshua A. Norton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here was a man who was not born an aristocrat, but IMO I think he was one of the better ones. He walked the streets of San Francisco and greeted his subjects on a daily basis. People loved this man even though he may have been a few cards short of a full deck. He even stopped a full blown riot from happening by walking in between the two opposing parties ....now that shows brass balls. Not many leaders (or people) today or from the past would have done such a thing. To me Emperor Norton I is a truly great role modal for modern day aristocrats. Prince Henry ....take a lesson from His imperial majesty Emperor Norton I.

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Frederik. the crown prince of denmark

He got the familie
Frederik, Crown Prince of Denmark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Ok. So do you like him? Is he a good aristocrat? Or do you think he takes up space and makes noise? The only thing that I've seen worthwhile about him is that he worked among the homeless while at Harvard.

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I like him a great deal, he and his mother are the reason why denmark still has a royal house

He is a extreamly humana person, kind and loving, and down to earth, and he does things that needs to be done, he has served in 2 out of the 3 danish special forces, his nickname is pingo, which he got during his seal traning, when it comes to morals he stand firm, many newpapers have attacked him because he is one the OL commity, but he stod his ground, and we like him for that crerator.
He is a gifted diplomate and will make a great king, even better then his mother I think, and thats saying alot, her biggest mistake was marrige her husband :P

He have been seen as the ultimate man because he was so strong, but when he got married he cried in the church

I will gladly stick him up agaisnt any politican, I believe he can do a better job then any of them, and if by some freak chance a revulation comes here and forcebly removes the royalhouse, then he does have the skills to fight of the indvaders, he has earned his military rank

even if he wasnt royal he would still be abow avarge person, he is just something special, down to earth, yet noble, he is lucky that he takes after his mother

Good to know. Although, I think he has had a few more opportunities than the average person. At least he did not squander them.

Ok ....how about Princess Diana? Diana, Princess of Wales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



I know she did good things. However, I recall her popularity and fame as being too over the top. Yes, I know she was a princess and blah blah. But, almost every time I remember seeing her on the TV it was concerning some ball or party she was attending or some spat with her husband -- in other words tabloid material. Furthermore, she seemed to have fans for the same reason as Britney Spears -- merely being pretty, living a dream life, and being famous. I remember when she died people made such a big deal about her. There were tons of magazines and memorabilia all over the place about her. At the same time, Mother Teresa had passed away and barely anyone noticed. IMO Mother Teresa deserved more fanfare.

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Well said Skelethom, I completely agree.

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Well, I was never a fan of Diana, she was just a normal human being. She married Charles, who knows if she was aware of Camilla and married him regardless. She was unstable and when the marriage hit the skids she had more lovers than Charles, so IMO we will never know who was right or wrong or if anyone was.

She did work for charity and used her position for good, but after the divorce she had scaled down that work and was intent on doing even less...she was withdrawing from public service in favour of the good life.

All that said, when she died I was horrified and most of the people were. There was a strange mood in the country and IMO it must be similar to the feeling before a revolution or a coup, people were very, very angry. The Royals were up here at their everyday home in Balmoral (London is their office, but they prefer to live here), people were looking to apportion blame, they wanted to grieve and they wanted them back in London.

I think the shock and anger and sadness really stemmed from the existence of the boys. I had no time for Diana, but the boys were so young and vulnerable and at the time it seemed like their father was pretty useless and the entire family was just a shambles, you wondered who would raise them and who they would turn to. It was the boys I cried over. Not Diana. Although the loss of life at such a young age is always shocking.

As to who should have had their head chopped off, Elizabeth the 1st. Her mother was an interloper, not legitimately married according to the law of the time and she chopped off the heads of many, some with a better claim to the throne than she did herself... Mary, Queen of Scots for example.

To be fair to her, Mary was a bit of an idiot. Ruled by her heart and passions often (well, who am I to talk, pot and kettle) but in her position, you must do better and be politically astute. She was not and reaped the rewards.

For example, Mary had a lover, Bothwell, and after a deal of scandal she married him. He was suspected of murdering Mary's husband and she should not have married him as public opinion was clearly against him, but she was ruled by passion, he was a strong man whose support she relied on, he was never one to take no for an answer and she married him anyway. This sealed her fate. She lost her head some years later by Elizabeth's hand and Bothwell died mad in a ....DANISH prison.

By comparison, Elizabeth, also had a lover, Dudley, who was suspected of murdering his own wife to enable marriage with Elizabeth. She clearly loved him, but did not succumb to her passion and did not marry him, thus stepping back from the suspicion of involvement and retaining her position.

Of the two, Elizabeth was clearly the more astute. But she still annoys me, so off with her head

only really the going to harvard part, though I thikbn he could have manage that as well, the rest were options that everyone had, being in the special forces is something that is not taken lightly, if you cant follow your out, he also did one tour of duty in greenland

He does his job extreamly well, his pobulaty is something that he has earned the hard way,

Dinaen seem like a beuty queen, not really my type