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Old 03-01-2008, 01:57 PM
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Well, they were slave owners which means that they were white supremists.
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Not all the founding fathers were slave owners.

John Adams was very much against slavery. It was mostly the Southern Founding fathers that were slave owners. Nor were they all rich.
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Not all the founding fathers were slave owners.
OK. So?
The institution of slavery had been made legal by the founding fathers.


Slavery is a social-economic system under which certain persons — known as slaves — are deprived of personal freedom and compelled to perform labour or services. The term includes the status or condition of those persons who are treated as the property of another person, household, company, corporation or government. This is referred to as "chattel slavery".

Slaves are held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase, or birth, and are deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to receive compensation in return for their labor. As such, slavery is one form of unfree labor.

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Consider this quotation from Malcom X

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"The seal, and the constitution, reflect the thinking of the founding fathers, that this was, to be a nation by white people, and for white people. Native Americans, blacks, and all other non-white people, were to be the burden bearers, for the real citizens of this nation"
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Not all slave owners were white.

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In June 1631 pirates from Algiers and armed troops of the Turkish Ottoman Empire, led by the notorious pirate captain Morat Rais, stormed ashore at the little harbour village of Baltimore in West Cork. They captured almost all the villagers and bore them away to a life of slavery in North Africa. The prisoners were destined for a variety of fates -- some would live out their days chained to the oars as galley slaves, while others would spend long years in the scented seclusion of the harem or within the walls of the Sultan's palace. The old city of Algiers, with its narrow streets, intense heat and lively trade, was a melting pot where the villagers would join slaves and freemen of many nationalities. Only two of them ever saw Ireland again.
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Black Supremists, like those that sold and captured the slave to start with
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So you cant say all the founding fathers supported slavery.
I choose John Adams becuase he was always against slavery.

What they did was choose to put off the issue becuase they wouldnt have been able to gain freedom for the nation otherwise.

Many people died in this country so that we could end slavery.
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Back then, most people were racist. Your ancestors were probably racist. Mine were probably racist. I'm not talking about just in America, either. Even in countries where slavery was illegal, blacks were still second-class citizens. The Russians, whom you seem to think so perfect (are you a Russo-supremacist?), were racist against Jews (remember the pogroms?) and Arabs almost until the formation of the USSR. That's one good thing the USSR did; abolish private ownership of slaves. Stalin seemed to consider state ownership of slaves good, though.

Just another attempt to bash America. **** you too.
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I think in thsi context you are right Phae, about the purpose of the post, but if Malcom X was right what does it say about America?
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So you cant say all the founding fathers supported slavery.
I choose John Adams becuase he was always against slavery.
You sdaid that already. John Adams was agaist owning a slave? Well, today Al Gore is against owning a car.

The point is this - the institution of slavery had been made legal by the founding fathers.

The slaves had been brought to America BEFORE the founding fathers were born. When the founding fathers wrote the laws of a country they made slavery legal.
They saw no problem with that issue.
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