And what is the difference between 20 and 40 million killed? That distinction seems spurious.

Hugo Chavez wrote:
His help of the poor and the ill, his role in the revolution brought about the circumstances that have saw millions of lives saved and improved.

I'm sorry Hugo but those reasons seems to me very weak. These people are being killed, stricltly, by Che. No trial, no judge, no legal defense.


Hugo wrote:
Cuban life expectancy is longer than many first world countries, it is a tremendous achievement.

Have you ever talk to a cuban? The 100% of the cubans I've met rather prefer our doctors that theirs.

Hugo wrote:
Both countries help each other. Venezuela doesnt just give away its oil, they trade it with Cuba for medical expertise

Wrong. Venezuela is giving away its oil in order to let the real Hugo Chávez, not you, to achieve his bolivarian plans. Hugo Chávez has gone mad.

Saludos

Che tried them and Che was the judge. The end of a bloody war requires swift justice.


The only Cubans who live outside Cuba are for lack of a better word, traitors. they are repugnant capitalists, so it is no surprise that they bad mouth the revolution. It's because they want to exploit their country they play a propaganda war from the west, aiming to squeeze the support of the revolution.


I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong. Venezuela trades oil for doctors with Cuba. It has a similar deal with Argentina, where Argentina supplies food to Venezuela. These relationships are mutually beneficial.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

Hugo, despiertate! Estaras durmiendo!

What an absolutely assanine statement. By that logic if I don't support GW Bush in his 'war on terrorism' I'm on the side of the terrorists. As he said, "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists"

While many in the Cuban exile community were wealthy industrialists and landowners, many were simply working-class people who didn't and still don't agree with the 'revolution', but had no right to voice their opposition to a dictatorship.

What about the thousands of homosexuals who've had to flee Cuba because of constant harrassment by the state? Are they traitors, just because Fidel is a homophobe?

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The Bush thing isnt the same. Bush is a neocolonial capitalist, it is a duty to oppose him. That doesnt make you a traitor.
That sums it up. They are either exploiters or class traitors.

I dont know if its quite thousands. That was in the early days of the revolution when admittedly some of capitalists cuba's ruling class' ideas still prevailed. Cuba has moved on since then, homosexuality was hardly accepted in much of the west at the same time. Cuba actually decriminalised homosexuality before Scotland, so it was still quite forward thinking.

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"If there ever was in the history of humanity an enemy who was truly universal, an enemy whose acts and moves trouble the entire world, threaten the entire world, attack the entire world in any way or another, that real and really universal enemy is precisely Yankee imperialism"

"North Americans don't understand... that our country is not just Cuba; our country is also humanity"

Hugo Chávez wrote:
Che tried them and Che was the judge. The end of a bloody war requires swift justice.

Hugo, I'm afraid we do not share the same definition of Justice.

Hugo wrote:
The only Cubans who live outside Cuba are for lack of a better word, traitors. they are repugnant capitalists, so it is no surprise that they bad mouth the revolution. It's because they want to exploit their country they play a propaganda war from the west, aiming to squeeze the support of the revolution.

Traitors? Not at all Hugo. The cubans I know are absolutely proud of their country but they just can't live there because there is no freedom. Is simply that. It is not a matter of propaganda nor they are "repugnant capitalists" like us.

Hugo wrote:
I'm sorry, but you are simply wrong. Venezuela trades oil for doctors with Cuba. It has a similar deal with Argentina, where Argentina supplies food to Venezuela. These relationships are mutually beneficial.

There is hunger in Venezuela. I guess the most important foreing colony in Venezuela is spaniard. We had never seen so many of them wanting to come back home. I'm talking about the third or fourth generation. People who has been born in Venezuela, but their parents or their grandparents were spaniards.

Saludos

Quite forward thinking? hablas en serio? Cuba decriminalized homosexuality ONE year before Scotland. That means they did it the same year as Spain. 1979.

Why did you Scots wait 13 years after England and Wales?

"Hardly accepted in much of the west at the same time" again, en serio?

France, Belgium and Luxembourg all decriminalized it OVER 200 YEARS AGO!!!

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