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Old 08-31-2008, 01:28 AM
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A hurricane impacts the environment so I thought I'd put this news here. If it hits NO and is bad I hope more people get out this time than did during Katrina.

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NEW ORLEANS - Residents were ordered to flee an only partially rebuilt New Orleans Sunday as another monster storm bore down on Louisiana nearly three years to the day after Hurricane Katrina wiped out entire swaths of the city.
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Hurricane Gustav, which already killed more than 80 people in the Caribbean, strengthened quickly into a Category 4 and was poised to become a Category 5 storm, packing winds in excess of 156 mph. It slammed Cuba's tobacco-growing western tip before moving away from the island country into the Gulf of Mexico.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin used stark language to urge residents to get out of the city, calling Gustav the "storm of the century."

"This is the real deal, not a test," Nagin said as he issued the evacuation order Saturday night. "For everyone thinking they can ride this storm out, I have news for you: that will be one of the biggest mistakes you can make in your life."

Forecasters were slightly less dire in their predictions, saying the storm should make landfall Monday afternoon somewhere between western Mississippi and East Texas, where evacuations were also under way. It's too early to know whether New Orleans will take another direct hit, they said, but city officials weren't taking any chances.

The mandatory evacuation of the city's west bank, where levee improvements remain incomplete, was to begin at 8 a.m., with the east bank to follow at noon. It's the first test of a revamped evacuation plan designed to eliminate the chaos, looting and death that followed Katrina.

The city will not offer emergency services to those who choose stay behind, Nagin said, and there will be no "last resort" shelter as there was during Katrina, when thousands suffered inside a squalid Superdome. The city said in a news release that those not on their property after the mandatory evacuation started would be subject to arrest.

Many residents didn't need to be ordered, with an estimated 1 million people fleeing the Gulf Coast on Saturday by bus, train, plane and car. They clogged roadways, emptied gas stations of fuel and jammed phone circuits.

At the city's main transit terminal, a line snaked through the parking lot for more than a mile as residents with no other means of getting out waited to board buses bound for shelters in north Louisiana and beyond.

"I'm not staying for 'em any more," said Lester Harris, a 53-year-old electrician waiting at a bus pickup point in the Lower 9th Ward. He was rescued from his house by boat after Katrina. "I got caught in the water and spent two days on my roof. No food, no water. It was pretty bad."

Mike Mayer, owner of Jefferson Indoor Range and Gun Outlet in suburban Metairie, said sales of guns and ammunition were up.

"My business doubled," he said. "People are afraid of coming back after the storm. ... They want some protection when they walk back in."

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff planned to travel to Louisiana on Sunday to observe preparations. And likely GOP presidential nominee John McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, were traveling to Mississippi.

Despite the stern warnings from Nagin and others, the expected arrival of 2,000 National Guard troops suggested officials were expecting stragglers.

Stephen Sonnier left for Katrina, but not this time.

"I'll never leave again. Just being away, worrying about it last time? I'd have rather been here," Sonnier said as he helped his friend Bill Espy use an electric drill to fasten metal hurricane panels over the window of his reconstructed flower shop.

Sonnier had just marked the third anniversary of Katrina on Friday by placing flowers on a makeshift memorial to a woman named Vera who was struck by a car after the storm. Her body lay unattended for days before neighbors built a makeshift brick tomb around her. Pictures of that grave with its spray-painted epitaph: "Here lies Vera, God Help Us!" became one of the symbols of the post-Katrina mayhem.

Many residents said the early stage of the evacuation was more orderly than Katrina, although a plan to electronically log and track evacuees with a bar code system failed and was aborted to keep the buses moving. Officials said information on evacuees would be taken when they reached their destinations.

Some began arriving Saturday in Arkansas, where the National Guard prepared to shelter thousands for weeks. At least 15,000 people sought refuge in the inland state in 2005, following Katrina and Rita.

Meanwhile, as many as 500 critical-care patients were being airlifted from hospitals along the Gulf Coast to Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport, a spokesman said. The patients were being taken to about 20 hospitals around North Texas.

Traffic late Saturday night was stop and go on Interstate 10, heading west into Houston from the Louisiana border, as Texas prepared to house up to 45,000 evacuees, even though that state's eastern stretches were within the range of where Gustav could make landfall.

In Beaumont, not far from where Hurricane Rita roared ashore as a Category 3 in 2005, residents were boarding up homes and leaving. In neighboring Orange County, officials were inundated "by thousands" of people calling to register for evacuation assistance, a county spokeswoman said.

To the east, Louisiana residents were checking into hotels along Alabama's coast. Mitch and Laura Tucker of Mandeville brought along their dog, Roux, whom they saved during Katrina.

"We don't know what we'll be going back to," he said.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:36 AM
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If it hits NO and is bad I hope more people get out this time than did during Katrina.
Thare aren't as many people there anymore.

It looks like it will hit New Iberia.
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Atlantic Hurricane Gustav

NO won't get the eye but the will be on the leading edge. This is actually worse than being hit head on. Bigger surge.....more tornadoes.

If it tracks much more west I'll have to evac my wife and kids.
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If it tracks much more west I'll have to evac my wife and kids.
Yikes, let's hope it doesn't come to that!

It's weird how severe storms like this are increasing in frequency.
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Perhaps if they'd been bused out they could have escaped.
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A hurricane impacts the environment so I thought I'd put this news here. If it hits NO and is bad I hope more people get out this time than did during Katrina.
Looks like this time they are not going to wait for incompetent local Democrats to do nothing again..

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I wonder if those that decide to stay and suffer the wrath of nature will fuel another platform to blame Bush and the Republicans again? Last i remember, the mayor and governer dropped the ball. Local agencies are responsible, and there has always been fair warning of coming chaos.
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I wonder if those that decide to stay and suffer the wrath of nature will fuel another platform to blame Bush and the Republicans again? Last i remember, the mayor and governer dropped the ball. Local agencies are responsible, and there has always been fair warning of coming chaos.
That is exactly what all Democrats are hoping for.. A disaster like this is the ONLY way that they can win..

Hoping for disasters and Hoping that the Government fails to deliver to all of those poor people who have been told by Democrats that Government is the ONLY solution to all of their problems.

Funny that they use government as a duel edge sword.. hoping it fails on one hand and then telling people that Government is the only solution.


Certainly we have seen over the past 60 years that Democrats have no desire to use the government to actually solve problems.. only insure that government fails even to maintain the people at subsistence levels.
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That is exactly what all Democrats are hoping for.. A disaster like this is the ONLY way that they can win..
Forget your idiotic political agenda, NOBODY wins in a disaster, everyone loses.

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Hoping for disasters and Hoping that the Government fails to deliver to all of those poor people who have been told by Democrats that Government is the ONLY solution to all of their problems.
How does this relate? The Bush administration (Republican) were not much help when Katrina hit.

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Funny that they use government as a duel edge sword.. hoping it fails on one hand and then telling people that Government is the only solution.
The word you are searching for is DUAL meaning two-edged, and government is never the only solution, but neither is form of government which is your hidden agenda.


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Certainly we have seen over the past 60 years that Democrats have no desire to use the government to actually solve problems.. only insure that government fails even to maintain the people at subsistence levels.
Are you seriously inferring that Democrats have been in power in the USA since 1948?

Can I get some of whatever you are on?
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I like when Nagin said all looters would be taken directly to Angola, looked like others liked it too, they were all grinnin' big when he said it.
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Forget your idiotic political agenda, NOBODY wins in a disaster, everyone loses.
Reputation added. One of the best responses I've ever seen.
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