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Old 08-19-2008, 07:04 PM
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Yes, and temperatures have been increasing since the last ice age.
Wrong, the temperature has gone through several cycles since the last ice age.
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Wrong, the temperature has gone through several cycles since the last ice age.
And many cycles before the ice age as well. earth has been around for a VERY long time. Hard to graph EXACTLY what the next trend will be since we don't have the data available from so long ago to make an educated prediction.

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Just because the earth has had natural cycles, you seem to think that there can't be anything but natural temperature changes.

Do you not see how that's logically unsound?
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Just because the earth has had natural cycles, you seem to think that there can't be anything but natural temperature changes.

Do you not see how that's logically unsound?

Not enough data to say what is REALLY the reasons. Is it natural? Is it man made? It very well could be, but there is not enough data to accurately give an educated reason. Do you see how this IS logically sound?
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You don't have the experience, education, or intelligence to claim there's not enough data to give an educated reason. So no, it's still not sound.

You are a layman. Your google-fu is hardly adequate to make such sweeping claims outside your field of expertise. It's highly arrogant to dismiss all the hard work of the world's top scientists based on your5 min internet research.
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Just because the earth has had natural cycles, you seem to think that there can't be anything but natural temperature changes.

Do you not see how that's logically unsound?

...but if the changes that are being observed today are within those natural cycles.. then how can one say that Man has anything to do with it?

The idea that man can have any affect on global temperatures is preposterous.. let alone the most stupid excuses that it could be carbon dioxide..

The politicians pushing this all must think that those who follow this are pretty stupid ...
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You don't have the experience, education, or intelligence to claim there's not enough data to give an educated reason. So no, it's still not sound.

You are a layman. Your google-fu is hardly adequate to make such sweeping claims outside your field of expertise. It's highly arrogant to dismiss all the hard work of the world's top scientists based on your5 min internet research.

What work are you talking about? Computer programs that did not even predict the global cooling that we have been experiencing over the past 5 years or so? Or is it the fact that in order to obtain the grant money to continue their research, they must obtain results that are acceptable to the ruling class or prevailing scientific conclusions?

Seems that we have returned to the era of Galileo where scientists are put under house arrest for spewing views of science that are not what the ruling class wants spewed?
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:52 PM
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Not enough data to say what is REALLY the reasons. Is it natural? Is it man made? It very well could be, but there is not enough data to accurately give an educated reason. Do you see how this IS logically sound?
Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Really? If that is your only response.. it tells it all. There is no data to support the position that any of the temperature fluctuations are a result of anything that Man did.. let alone any data that demonstrates that an increase of 10 - 20 ppm carbon dioxide was responsible.

It is a hoax.. designed to allow pseudointellectual leftists to steal more money from the peeons.
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Really? If that is your only response.. it tells it all. There is no data to support the position that any of the temperature fluctuations are a result of anything that Man did.. let alone any data that demonstrates that an increase of 10 - 20 ppm carbon dioxide was responsible.

It is a hoax.. designed to allow pseudointellectual leftists to steal more money from the peeons.
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Again, this just means you haven't looked for any of the data...
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