I'm agreeing with Techno on something??



It invalidates it for Sam... and many of those who think like him... so for Sam and his cronies... it works...

Show me a link that states Nobel Prize Winner Al Gore is trying to force any changes on anyone.

it does for Chan and his cronies...


So what if it has happened in the past? How many people died as a result of the famines created by the droughts? Or died in the flooding? Or were killed in wars fought over the loss of terrirtory and/or resources? How many cities were swallowed up by rising seas?

hmmm, chan? How many?

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Well, since civilization didn't exist the last time something like this happened, we have no idea whether or not it would be bad. I, and more importantly, practically every credible climatologist, believe that it will probably be bad.

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The fact that there will be more intense storms, increasing desertification, destruction of farmland, loss of coastal settlements, disruption of coastal fishing...no. Of course that's not bad. Not bad at all. \

You're absolutely right. Global Warming isn't a bad thing. That is...if you like global catastrophe, starvation, and economic hardship, of course. Yea! Sounds awesome.





Edit: people also think that, if you attack Al Gore, you somehow negate the validity of global warming. That's silly. The validity of global warming is independent of anything Al Gore says or does. Moreover, it's moronic to say you won't change your behaviour or even listen to something because you dislike the actions of the people who recommend it. That's like saying you will ignore the fact that murder is wrong because a murderer admits he does it anyway.

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Aren't we always the ones that jump on people for not being savvy enough to see a potential disaster coming, and not taking care of situations easily at the first stages? We're always so smug, and say "Gee, ya didn't see that coming, Sparky?" Like when the last guy went out to cut down the last tree on Easter Island......

Global Warming is something that will likely become progressively more painful and difficult to fix as time goes by. Our resistance and denial of simple, relatively cost-effective changes now will look really stupid in twenty-five, fifty, years.

I have no idea if man-made GW is real or not. To me, that's not the point. It's all about taking responsibility for the future. Heck, even if this trend is simply a natural fluctuation, why not fight that, too? We certainly have the means to. Just because it's natural, doesn't mean it's a good thing, either. Our entire history of manking is a story of manipulating and conquering Mother Nature for our own comfort. Why not with this, too?

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The fact that life adapted and survived is enough to suggest that it probably wasn't bad.

I don't give a rat's behind what "every credible climatologist" says! And what the hell makes them "credible" anyway - your agreement with what they say? I remember when these so-called "credible climatologists" were warning about a coming ice age.

It's all much ado about nothing.

Is it true that the overall global temperature rose a degree or two over the last 100 years? Yes. Does that mean we should all of a sudden just rip apart the very fabric of Western Civilization to conform to untested proposals from a bunch of insane environmentalists who are not themselves living the lifestyle they insist we all must live? No.

Talk to me when Al Gore and his cult all successfully live their lives according to what they expect from the rest of us - and that includes no fossil fuels, no meat, etc.

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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

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Stop getting your panties in a knot, Stripey!

The fact that it happened in the past is at least circumstantial evidence that global warming is not man-made and that life has survived previous periods of warming and cooling that quite clearly happen in cycles. And even if humans are contributing to the current warming trend, so what? One or two degrees over the course of a hundred years is pretty much meaningless.

It doesn't matter how many people died in these little droughts that happen from time to time. You make it sound as if drought is something new that has never happened before. As for the flooding, well, if people are stupid enough to build their homes on a flood plain they deserve to die - and there's no proof that these were caused by global warming. As for cities swallowed up by rising seas, I have yet to hear of any.

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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Trees can be re-planted. But, then again, you're assuming that having trees on Easter Island is preferable to not having trees on Easter Island.

Well, you know something, there have been periods of warming and cooling throughout recorded history and we've survived just fine. We're human: we adapt, we overcome. Why do you people insist humans must conquer their environment instead of adapting to it?

Actually, whether it's man-made or not is the entire point. The Al Gore Cult insists that humans are at fault by their use of fossil fuels, eating meat (which comes from animals that require significant natural resources to raise commercially), etc., and that we must eliminate our carbon footprints even while Al himself maintains his giant carbon footprint. Again, however, you assume that humans must fight and conquer the environment instead of adapt to it.

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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Global Warming has apparently gotten so threatening that Alaska is facing it's coolest summer on record

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That's really harsh, Chan. I could go along with a statement to the effect that people who are stupid enough to build their homes on a flood plain should be prepared to pay the consequences and not be bailed out by the taxpayers, but I don't agree that they deserve to die. I find such a sentiment to be, well I can't even find the words - I guess over the top and cruel.

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Is not death a possible consequence of building their homes on a flood plain? Do they not deserve to bear the consequences of their choices?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."