Not if you have more than a 3rd grade/Entertainment Weekly-level understanding of global warming........

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This doesn't address anything I said, especially the fact that you were indeed wrong. An impact is perfectly natural. You claimed it wasn't. You're wrong. I am right. Here ends this point.

As for most of your other sources, it's a long list of supposed scientists, many of whom are not actually scientists or are scientists in entirely irrelevant fields. The opinion of a civil engineer--who builds stuff--is not authoritative on climate science. Neither is a mathematician. What next? Are you going to quote economists?

Incorrect. You are just misinformed. I hope you referred to the websites I directed you to. You still need to catch up on the previous information before we can continue this discussion.

Wrong.


[quote] We are talking about a change of about 10 - 20 ppm Carbon dioxide.. which is miniscule../quote]

Small != unimportant.


Unsubstantiated assertion borne of ignorance, so for now, I will forgive you for being stupid. Research this more, then come back when you've learned something.

Faulty logic. "X isn't as significant as Y, therefore, X isn't important until it reaches Y" According to this moronic logic, given my mortgage bill is the largest payment I have, dwarfing most other bills, it logically follows that any of my other bills have no impact whatsoever on my budget.

Are you really that retarded son? I hope I don't need to explain further why your logic is idiotic.

LoL. I won't even dignify this with a real response. For the sake of helping you maintain some sort of dignity, I will pretend you never asked that question.

This is the same idiotic reasoning I have dealt with before time and time again. Individual temperatures in any one location may fluctuate, even though average global temperatures are increasing. Local weather conditions don't equate or identically correlate to average global temperature changes. The fact that it gets cold somewhere on Earth doesn't mean that the world isn't heating up, on average.

Really, this isn't a difficult concept to grasp. Are you intentionally being dense? Or does it just come naturally?

Ah, yes, in that strange world of so-called "science" warming doesn't actually mean warming.

So, I guess the actual global temperature really hasn't risen a degree or so in the last 100 years - and yet supposedly there is all this global warming going on!

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

You really don't get it, do you? In order for the temperature to be warming globally - meaning EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD - then the temperature must actually be warming everywhere. Otherwise, the warming is not really global.

Of course, what's really going on with you members of the Al Gore Cult isn't that the temperature all around the world (hence "global") is warming but, instead, you manipulate numbers and then use phrases like "on average." In order for the warming to be global, it must actually be global - it must be warming everywhere on the planet - because, after all, to NORMAL PEOPLE (those not part of the Al Gore and science cults) warming actually means warming.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

It does indeed, but, no, it's not just sticking one's hand out and saying it doesn't feel any warmer, therefore GW is bogus.

I'll go with whatever the scientists figure out, IF they ever reach a consensus, that is. I'm not arrogant enough to believe I know better than they do, in the meantime.

Dunno. I figure it makes responsible sense not to s*** where we eat, environment-wise, and that if we can control our impact, to whatever degree, we should. For once in our history, I'd like to nip a potential problem in the bud, rather than wait for a crisis point, where it's exponentially more expensive and harder to address.

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Science is not a consensus.. back in the 1400s there was a consensus that the world was flat.. and the sun spun around the earth.

The consensus at that time was wrong.. and has been many times since that time.

Science IS what it is.. regardless of how many scientists think it is or isn't.

[quote=Technocratic_Utilitarian;143673]Incorrect. You are just misinformed. I hope you referred to the websites I directed you to. You still need to catch up on the previous information before we can continue this discussion.
Wrong.


Sorry, where did you post the websites. I will gladly look at them.

However, I have done quite a bit of investigation in the scientific literature and there really is not much to support that 10 - 20 ppm carbon dioxide does what Al Gore says it does.

and I have not found any studies which unequivocally demonstrate that CO2 is a greenhouse gas..

I think you're confusing "science" with "reality".

Reality exists independent of what humans think. "Science" is merely a method used to explore and explain the world around us. Science is absolutely consensus based and changes constantly to reflect our current understanding, descriptively and experimentally.

Science relies on the recognition of being proved wrong and the correction of error. That's kind of the point.

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"Oh, bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...