The experts do not agree, but this is the only planet we have, so we need to proceed with extreme precaution. Not like Bush, who is censoring NASA and other scientific evidence supporting global warming because his billionaire employer bosses are the worst of all greenhouse gas emission culprits.

THE EARTH IS WARMING!!! That part is undeniable. The arctic ice caps are melting at an alarming rate. To deny that is absolutely ridiculous.

I am not assigning a reason why this is happening, but the warming is faster than what has ever happened before. We could be at a point where the sea level rises, cities go under water.

All the more reason to proceed with extreme caution.

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A few scientists proposed shooting giant soot cannons at the sky or launching nukes. That should get the military wankers a hard -on.

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The earth HAS been warming since the last ice age... however, over the past few years it has not been as warm and temperatures on earth have not been as warm.

Southern ice caps are NOT melting and the ice is coming back to the North.

Man is not the cause.. it is just a normal fluctuation.

Sea levels have not risen and cities will not go under water...

Carbon Dioxide levels of 380 ppm have not cause any of that and most certainly an increase of 20 ppm CO2 causing it is absurd.. it is the leftists who want to tax the air that you breathe... and Gore wanting to grow his carbon Credit company...

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and i guess if there is even one dissenting voice you will argue that there is no consensus.

why not reference the climatologists directly ?

facetious aren't we ? yes, it is an oblate spheroid with irregularities such as mountains and valleys and tidal water movements. according to the current prevailing theory. but the ongoing existence of the flat earth society illustrates that the debate is far from over.

but it was time saying there was a coming ice age. you did not quote or reference any climatologist, just the journalist from time. and journalists do not do a universally rigorous job. why not reference the original articles from the era, cite the science directly ? like this :

Science-type stuff

this article cites and quotes the original research. notice how in the time article, the original publications are not always reported in their entirety. there are no sales in an article about some scientists predicting a possible cooling, perhaps, if recent trends continue for decades and highly dubious assumptions are correct and no new information comes to light. not riveting reading. no wonder they ran with "pending ice age" instead. even in 1974 time had to sell magazines to make their money.

consensus is NOT science... Science is what it is regardless of the vote.

true, majority decisions do not create reality. when the information is presented to people with the skills and knowledge to interpret it, with the experience to understand it, when it has been debated and discussed internationally for many years and the majority agree on one particular explanation, it is a stretch to then claim they are all completely wrong.

the fact that they say the earth is warming is not itself proof that it is warming. but the fact that there is widespread agreement from the people with the knowledge of the field is not something that you can simply discount without presenting some counter explanation for the evidence.

Lay people ought to go with the consensus of the scientific community. It's irrelevant whether they might be wrong. No one is saying the majority must always be right. However, they are far better educated on this topic, specialize in it, and have access to the information and skills you do not. You are therefore ill-equipped to disagree and must defer to proper authority. If you aren't a climatologist, your opinions are effectively worthless.

...but science is not a matter of consensus.. never was..

Science is what it is. and it is NOT irrelevant if they are wrong.

Taxing the air that we breath and letting government control the air that we breath is tyranny at the highest level the world has ever dreamed.

The government and evil leftists should keep their grubby, greedy hands off science until the science has been worked out.

Why are leftists so evil?

the best information was presented to the people with the skills and knowledge to interpret it.. with the experience to understand it and when it has been debated and discussed internationally for many years and the majority agree in the year 1400 they all agreed that the world was flat


only Columbus and a few others had a different view...

Galileo was ridiculed by the consensus of the time..

Others thought in the 70s that acid rain was destroying the world.. and the Ozone hole remember that hoax?

No, this is another masturbation by the 'science is consensus' crowd.. which has not be right about much over the past 600 centuries...

Global Warming.

Interesting how much weight we place on science that is as old as this country is.

We are using "data" if you want to call it that, to say the world is warming and humans are the casue. Okay, great.

Mars is warming too, but I am not sure we humans are doing that. Are we?

The basic fact of the matter is we are trusting science to say we are warming the globe, but we allow ourselves to agree with stuff culled from ice?

Look, the earth is what 3 billion years old? It has frozen over a few times, gotten hotter a few times and froze over again. I don't recall hearing about all the humans that caused it THEN.

But now, it's our fault.

What a bunch of BS that is.

Sure it makes sense to conserve, and treat the earth as friendly as we can, but come on now. Common sense is not being used here. Not even close to common sense is being used.

The only thing that makes sense is the amount of money that can be made from the Going Green bunch of wankers. They want to charge companies to be able to pollute? How the hell does that do anything about "man made global warming" anyway?

Al Gore and the rest of the chicken littles are making a killing on the backs of world wide consumers. Everything will go up in price since all these companies all of a sudden are going green. Ever heard of a company doing anything that will not make them money?

Go green, get Al Gores blessing and watch the lemmings march to your door to buy stuff you think makes the world a cleaner cooler place.

100 years from now this will be the era of stupidity in the history books.

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