Exactly; that basically supports what I've been saying all along. You can't get something from nothing.

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Well - I posted this like the thread about cold fusion. It provokes critical thinking but the new technology has not been proven. This is only a head's up. Hopefully we will get peer reviews.

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"Cold" fusion is really just one way of tackling the problem. Basically, if they can figure out how to make it energy-positive, then we win. Room-temperature fusion would be a way to do that (but is probably impossible).

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Personally, seeing it in opporation isn't that important because it is very easy to fix a demonstration. How would you know that energy is really being produced and not wasted? That's not something you can see. And how would you know that it is working in the manner that they are suggesting, and not just have a small motor "assisting" it?

When it comes down to the physics, phyicists are used to working with the numbers and theories allone, because the eyes are easy to trick.

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One word: replication.

Isn't replicating the results supposed to be an important part of science?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

By an independent party, not by the same person. A scammer can always replicate his scam, over and over again.

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Yes, by an independent party. But you can't replicate something if all you're doing is sitting on your backside declaring that it'll never work.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

If they told me everything about it and provided me with blue prints, then I'll get off my backside. But by their haste move to patent it and sell it, with no independent testing, shows that they have no desire to actually show the world the wonders of what they discovered. It stinks of a scam, and I'm not wasting time and energy chasing geese.

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Not that I was referring to you specifically. However, the point is that instead of people dismissing it out of hand they need to either go to the guy and have him prove his invention works or they need to prove it doesn't work. Then again, what's to stop one of these people who are independently reviewing this thing from stealing the invention and patenting it himself?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

He won't receive the patent if the real inventor can show that it was stolen from him, and the stealer would lose all credibility in every field of science and get to find a new job (which would suck as seeing to get to that point he would have to have dedicated almost all of his education to something that he could no longer work in).

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