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Old 07-15-2008, 10:12 AM
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I forget where I saw this, but I find the argument as to why there is no way in hell that it would ever work far more compelling.
So, the thing actually working wouldn't sway you: you'd still think there's no way in hell that it would ever work?
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:25 AM
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So, the thing actually working wouldn't sway you: you'd still think there's no way in hell that it would ever work?
Well of course it if worked...
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:36 AM
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Well of course it if worked...
Well, no, I was thinking more along the lines of even if he was able to show it working you still wouldn't believe it.

Let's see the thing in operation.
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:39 AM
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Well, no, I was thinking more along the lines of even if he was able to show it working you still wouldn't believe it.
You base that on what exactly?
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:47 AM
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You base that on what exactly?
On your statement, "but I find the argument as to why there is no way in hell that it would ever work far more compelling."
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Old 07-15-2008, 10:54 AM
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On your statement, "but I find the argument as to why there is no way in hell that it would ever work far more compelling."
So far all I've seen is theory or unsubstantiated claims.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:20 AM
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So far all I've seen is theory or unsubstantiated claims.
"The working models in his lab generate 50 kilowatts of electricity - enough to power six or seven houses." So, because you personally didn't see this, you refuse to believe it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:33 AM
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"The working models in his lab generate 50 kilowatts of electricity - enough to power six or seven houses." So, because you personally didn't see this, you refuse to believe it.
I want to see it peer reviewed.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:49 AM
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"The working models in his lab generate 50 kilowatts of electricity - enough to power six or seven houses." So, because you personally didn't see this, you refuse to believe it.
I would personally like to see photos of the machine, and to hear commentary by scientists and engineers who have inspected the machine. Science is built in such a way that you can confront old theories, but if you want to attack some of the main pillars of modern physics, I expect to see some pretty compelling evidence.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:17 AM
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I meant this article from CNN would simply be a heads up notice. More information is needed, but they are going to build larger models and seek venture investors. If it works, I'm sure we are going to hear more.
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