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Old 06-21-2008, 01:01 PM
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White House Refuses To Release Documents On Air-Quality Policy
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The Bush administration yesterday invoked executive privilege and refused to turn over key documents sought by a House investigative committee, escalating a fight over the White House role in U.S. policy on greenhouse-gas emissions and ozone air quality standards.

Rep. Henry L. Waxman (D-Calif.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, called off a threatened contempt of Congress vote against Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Stephen L. Johnson and a White House budget official while congressional Democrats decide how to respond.

Lawmakers say the two Bush administration officials refused to respond to subpoenas for documents about communications between the White House and EPA. The papers concern White House intervention in Johnson's December decision to overrule EPA officials who were in favor of granting California and 17 other states permission to mandate a reduction of vehicle emissions by 30 percent by 2016.

In March, the EPA also issued tougher health standards for smog, but they were not as strict as levels recommended by an EPA science advisory board after President Bush sided with the White House Office of Management and Budget in opposition.
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"Administrator Johnson has repeatedly insisted he reached his decisions on California's petition and the new ozone standard on his own, relying on his best judgment," Waxman said. "Today's assertion of executive privilege raises serious questions about administrator Johnson's credibility and the involvement of the president."

In a letter to Waxman released yesterday, OMB Director Jim Nussle called the committee's threat of a contempt vote an "unjustified course" that failed to respect and balance the interests of a co-equal branch of government. Separately, EPA Associate Administrator Christopher B. Bliley told the committee that the administration turned over the "vast majority" of responsive documents, withholding fewer than 25 of more than 10,000.

Nussle wrote that the government is acting "to preserve the confidentiality that is essential to the ability of current and future Presidents to receive candid analyses, advice and recommendations" from senior advisers.

In addition to Johnson, House investigators sought records from Susan Dudley, administrator for information and regulatory affairs at the OMB.

Administration critics are trying to obtain the waiver California needs through a federal lawsuit and congressional legislation.

The confrontation is the latest showdown between Congress and the administration over executive privilege, under which presidents can prohibit executive branch officials from testifying or can withhold documents from Congress involving internal deliberations.

Earlier this year, the House sued former White House counsel Harriet E. Miers and chief of staff Joshua B. Bolten, seeking to compel them under subpoena to turn over information about the firing of nine U.S. attorneys. A hearing is scheduled for Monday in federal court in the District.

The House Judiciary panel also is engaged in a tug of war with former White House policy aide Karl Rove, who maintains through his attorney that he cannot answer questions about the U.S. attorney documents because of the privilege issue.

Peter Shane, a law professor and executive privilege expert at Ohio State University, said the conflicts are "part and parcel of a larger effort to reinstate what the Bush administration believes to be the proper scope of executive power."

In the EPA case, Shane said, Congress appears to be conducting an investigation of a policy decision that already has been made, a factor that he said ultimately could give lawmakers "an upper hand."
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I wonder why they are constantly refusing to release documents. If they had nothing to hide, why not just release them? Or will they claim it is a national secret? lmfao
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They cant release it becuase all it is is a picture of a donkey carrying around

Bushes third grade teacher around.
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I don't even know Bush's third grade teacher!
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Lol,

Im sorry I meant an A$$.
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I detest this. I am a big believer in maintaining the appearance of propriety and open communication. This Adminstration always steadfastly refuses to open itself to possible criticism.

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I detest this. I am a big believer in maintaining the appearance of propriety and open communication. This Adminstration always steadfastly refuses to open itself to possible criticism.

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Theyve gotten enough already dont you think?
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I wonder why they are constantly refusing to release documents. If they had nothing to hide, why not just release them? Or will they claim it is a national secret? lmfao
Why is Congress constantly asking for documents?

It's the standard fight between the executive and legislative branches. Until Congress admits to its own damned wrongdoing in giving the President various powers through the Patriot Act and similar legislation, it needs to shut the hell up! Presidential policy is none of Congress' damned business except when it comes to the passage of legislation. It is not the role of Congress to dictate Administration policy!
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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Why is Congress constantly asking for documents?

It's the standard fight between the executive and legislative branches. Until Congress admits to its own damned wrongdoing in giving the President various powers through the Patriot Act and similar legislation, it needs to shut the hell up! Presidential policy is none of Congress' damned business except when it comes to the passage of legislation. It is not the role of Congress to dictate Administration policy!
I find you're approval of the executive acting without accountability odd when juxtaposed with your normally libertarian views...
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I find you're approval of the executive acting without accountability odd when juxtaposed with your normally libertarian views...
I'm not approving the executive branch being without accountability, I'm simply not accepting the right of the legislative branch to demand the President provide documents. There is nothing in Article I, Section 8 (the scope of legislative branch powers) of the Constitution giving Congress the authority to demand documents or even testimony regarding Administration policy.
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There is the freedom on information act, but I would have to see if this would qualify.

Some of the worst of all offenders for greenhouse gas emissions are Bush billionaire supporters. I posted an article a couple of years ago about a plant that was one of the worst of all violators of emission standards making donations to the 2000 and 2004 Bush campaigns and by no random accident has had no government pressure to change.

The bottom line is Bush is perhaps the most total corporate prostitute president in US History. That problem is magnified by a total arrogance of power, as if there are no checks and balances.

There is the freedom of information act, and the "Presidential Transparency" legislation. And his claim for executive privilege to hide Rove partisan use of the Justice Department is total BS. At best, this applies only to situations where the president is involved directly himself.

It is called stone walling. The stone walls need to get ripped to shreds.
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