Yeah, that might be relavent if someone was proposeing we do it all in a striaght line. But since no one is, it's meaningless spin.

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2) Batteries, we already have them and use them. For individuals, they would have their own battery at their home (batteries that can hold anywhere from 3 days to 3 weeks worth of average use charge), this will have added benefits of never having power outages, since if a storm blows down the wires, you will just tap out of your battery until the wires are repaired (saving lives and money).

3) the best price for solar (at a retail level) is $4.05 per W (that includes instilation), at that price, the solar field would cost around $60 trillion (but that is at retail level, I don't know what it would be at the wholesale level. For nuclear, that is really hard to say, since we don't exactly build new sites all the time (or recently at all). I've seen estimates at different sites for as low as $500 million per GW, to as high as $20 billion per GW. But most that I've seen are around $8 billion per GW. So at $8 billion we are looking at $3.4 trillion. However, something to point out is that Nuclear powerplants almost never go for their predicited costs.

Millstone III cost 855% over budget
Limerick I cost 1005% over budget
Wolf Creek cost 185% over budget
Susquehanna I cost 208% over budget
Susquehanna II cost 185% over budget

So estimating an actual cost for either one is not going to be accurate, Solar (at today's prices) will be much more expensive than nuclear for start up costs.

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Nuke plants would be cheaper and faster to build if it weren't for the radical environmental nuts.

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And less safe. The only reason they have such a safety record as they do is because of the regulations that are forced upon them that they wouldn't do on their own. Take thoughs away and disasters are going to start happening.

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Often, some of the largest costs come from the unreasonable obstructionism and nothing else. They make the industry go through absurd hoops just to begin building, because they fight it tooth and nail in the first place with litigation. It takes years and gobs of money just to sort the paperwork out to begin building. That's ridiculous. ANd most of it is over environmental fearmongres' uninformed propaganda.

It's not necessarily the safety precautions they take. It's the lobbying against them, denying them access.

Most environmentalists are idiots when it comes to nuclear power. Finally, the Greenpeace saw the light and admitted how wrong they were. Good for him.

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Navy nukes get on line fast and on budget, and have a great safety record.

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So you admit that the problems are only political and not technical?

Its entirely relevant because it puts the impact of a solar project in perspective and shows how ridiculous it is.

Because of the Authoritarian nature of the military, we don't want that in the country do we?

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It actually takes it out of perspective in order to try to make it look ridiculous.

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So navy reactors are quick to make and safe, because the military is authoritarian?

Interesting. How does being authoritarian make the nukes build faster and be safe?

If so, sounds good to me. As I said: the real problem is the environut lobby that makes it expensive. And it's not to make it safe either. It's just to obstruct. That's what costs.

It's a good thing 67% of Americans want nukes. Bout time. Econuttery is going down.

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