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Old 06-03-2008, 11:09 AM
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So, could it not also be that the planet will adapt to our adaptations?
hmmm, no. The Earth doesn't adapt. Living things adapt. Rocks, dirt, and water, do not. What it will do is hit a new equalibrium climate (based on the new outflow to inflow of carbon in the enviroment), that's not adapting. It's no more adapting than by throwing a rock into the air, when it hits the ground, it breaks into a dozen pieces, and saying that the rock 'adapted' to the impact by breaking.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:49 AM
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hmmm, no. The Earth doesn't adapt. Living things adapt. Rocks, dirt, and water, do not. What it will do is hit a new equalibrium climate (based on the new outflow to inflow of carbon in the enviroment), that's not adapting. It's no more adapting than by throwing a rock into the air, when it hits the ground, it breaks into a dozen pieces, and saying that the rock 'adapted' to the impact by breaking.
Adapt = adjust/change. Are you saying the Earth will not adjust/change as a result of what man does to it?
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Adapt = adjust/change. Are you saying the Earth will not adjust/change as a result of what man does to it?
Adapt (v): to adjust oneself to different conditions.

The Earth will not change itself, it will be changed by us. Adaption implies that the thing that is adapting is causing the adaptations to the different conditions. The Earth is not causing it's own changes to adjust for us, but it is being directly changed by us. Adapt is far more specific that adjust or change.

People don't 'adapt' to a gunshot wound by dieing. Even though that is a change, it is not an adaptation. Surely you have more to the arguement than twisting words.
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Adapt (v): to adjust oneself to different conditions.

The Earth will not change itself, it will be changed by us. Adaption implies that the thing that is adapting is causing the adaptations to the different conditions. The Earth is not causing it's own changes to adjust for us, but it is being directly changed by us. Adapt is far more specific that adjust or change.

People don't 'adapt' to a gunshot wound by dieing. Even though that is a change, it is not an adaptation. Surely you have more to the arguement than twisting words.
Think of it more as warfare between the planet and man.
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Think of it more as warfare between the planet and man.
Maybe we should promote peace than.
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Maybe we should promote peace then.
Or we could be the conquerors that we humans are by nature. It all depends on one's perspective.
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Sorry, warefare with the planet is not going to end well. That's like being at war with you home, even if you 'win' you still destroyed your home, only this is on a bigger scale.
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Sorry, warefare with the planet is not going to end well. That's like being at war with you home, even if you 'win' you still destroyed your home, only this is on a bigger scale.
Maybe. Maybe not.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
Is that something that we should risk?
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Is that something that we should risk?
That depends on what we choose to do. If we develop technology that can manipulate the environment then it might be worth the risk.
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