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Old 04-11-2008, 01:49 AM
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OK your rght and everyone that has been involved is wrong. Cool if you want to be right.
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Old 04-11-2008, 02:59 PM
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I have no doubt that we are going through a cycle of global warming. I also have no doubts that the world has been warming and cooling since time began. These events are cyclical and I very much doubt that man has the ability to change them to any significant degree.

Our governments will, of course, tell us otherwise. It is in their interests to do so, for it provides them with a huge opportunity to raise revenue through so called 'green taxes'.
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Puhlease Andy. Go read the debunking thread... only one person challenged and he hasn't returned (maybe he will).
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Global warming caused by human life is not real. Al Gore said that temperature is directly affected by CO2, but we've seen over the last 10 years that CO2 levels have gone astronomical, but we're not seeing higher temperatures as a result. The fact is the polar ice caps are reading cooler temperatures than they have in a long time and it is hard to track anyway as the climate is continuously changing from all kinds of occurances in our world. ASU recently did a study seeing how cement holds heat and the main reason that larger cities are seeing higher temperatures for longer during the day is all the pavement and large office buildings. Even as the sun goes down, they are still radiating heat. While I agree all the CO2 makes less than favorable air quality, global warming is one of the biggest hoaxes ever created. If we're so concerned about the environment, then why are we using these neat little twisty bulbs? They may save some energy, but they are very toxic to dispose of. You can't tell me some companies do not benefit from selling this "world saving technology".
Go read the debunking thread.

As for buildings causing warming temperatures, how does that figure when measurements are made in Africa or pacific islands - or extreme altitude. Are you suggesting there's enough radiated temperature to do this? And night readings? Maybe all that heat stays around ALL night.. i can't believe this talk.

Challenge the science and stop throwing these silly conspiracy theories that world governments WANT to deal with the problem.

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Global warming has occured before, and it will again. So has global cooling. It's cycles.

Unless you are Al Gore and want to create hype to sell your products.
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It's hardly hype. Yea. It happened before. That it happened before doesn't mean Humans are not, in this case, a major catalyst. It also doesn't mean it will be good, despite having happened before. No one ever said climate change isn't natural, ever. Of course it is. That's neither here no there, though.

Diseases come and go, that doesn't mean they aren't serious, and it never means they are never exacerbated by human actions.
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Yes, it's clearly a totally natural cycle. You hit the nail right on the head there.

The fact is that there is a natural cycle--but the effect of that cycle has clearly been exacerbated by human activity.
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Isn't it interesting, Zephyr, how those red spikes correspond perfectly with the Industrial Revolution & the incredible growth of human population? What a coincidence!
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It's clearly fabricated by Big Government in order to expand the Nanny State.

Duh.
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Well, Michigan has had a record year of snowfall this year since records have been kept starting in 1880.

Yes, I know what all of you Manmade GWing enthusiasts are going to say, "this record snow fall is an effect of Global Warming."

Sure it is. I ain't buying that bridge.

Link: It's a record year for snowfall - Michigan News, Updates, Photos & Video | Detroit, Lansing - MLive.com

And in fact, according to the head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the Earth has been cooling over the past 10 years. Hmm. Who to believe? Its cheaper to believe that there is no Global Warming so I will go with that.

Link: Climate facts to warm to | The Australian
When you heat the atmosphere, the atmospheric convection cells accelerate their flow rates. This translates into higher average wind velocities and concommitant higher evaporation rates from oceans, lakes, etc. Itt also effectively accelerates the removal of heat from the ten thousand or so feetabove the earths surface where most of this heat is trapped. This means longer running 'Polar Express's' of all kinds. Altogether it translates into more moisture in the atmosphere....more rain and snow...more tornadoes, and more violent wind events of all kinds.
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