Pope condemns climate change prophets
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11 Dec 07 - "Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.
"The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

"The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.

"The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind."

Senior cardinals close to the Vatican have "expressed doubts about a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion."

In October, the Australian Cardinal George Pell, the Archbishop of Sydney, noted that the atmospheric temperature of Mars had risen by 0.5 degrees celsius.

"The industrial-military complex up on Mars can't be blamed for that," he said in a criticism of Australian scientists who had claimed that carbon emissions would force temperatures on earth to rise by almost five degrees by 2070 unless drastic solutions were enforced."

See entire article by Simon Caldwell:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...=1811&ito=1490

Read Dustin....

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The Pope is complaining about a [fictitious] lack of evidence and a "dubious ideology?"

What next?

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Uhh... yeah... so, um...

Global warming, isn't true. People are ignoring science and following liberal ideologies. They need to base their arguments on facts, not hopes.

But the Bible, that's true. We know this because it says it is. And there IS scientific proof of the Bible, but not ALL science proves the Bible. Since we know that the Bible is true and the inspired Word of God, we can infer that any science that does NOT agree with the Bible must be faulty. It's convenient, because we don't actually have to prove anything to discover that these methods are false - we can just know that they're wrong because of their lack of correlation with Scripture.

So yeah! Don't believe stuff that there isn't evidence for. Except for the Bible - it's evidence for itself, or something like that.

The Pope's always complaining about something. He's such a hypocritical idiot anyway. It's hilarious how a guy who heads an organization devoted to the worship of an invisible friend in the sky can talk about ideology and "evidence-based" reasoning, much less warn others about not using it. The comedy writes itself.

Quote: "The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind." End Quote.

I will agree with him on this much. A sforthe Bible I believe in it. But much of th eearly part seems to be to create an image. And science has shown some of th every foundations were writtem near a thousand syears earlier. But I believe in Jesus, never the less. No I don't think th ePope is anyone besides the head of a messed up organization. But tradition does have a place in our world. And it has proven to maintain it's place it would possibley sign a pack with Satan himself. IMHO only. I don't intend to hurt others feelings but I think this Pope will bring in a one world religion. Just IMHO.

As for global warming it is happening a swe speak. So why is it so important to place blame. Lets hear some suggestions to solve the problems..

Oh about the Bible some of us believe in so deeply. a lot was changed and many books left out. So we don't have the whole word of God, if one looks at it from that point of view. And what we do have has been translated from several languages to the present day version. But Blind faith is what is called for of th ebeliever so eithe ryou have it or you don't.

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lol like everyone else has pointed out this hilariously ironic. And just as mlurp pointed out "The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind," I have to agree with that as well.

Besides, Vatican City plans to be the first carbon neutral country. I think they've acknowledged global warming as being anthropogenic before.

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Yeah, that's right, but stopping global warming would be more about saving ourselves than about saving plants.

And anyway, who cares what the Pope says? He's not a scientist, is he? (He is, in fact, the exact opposite, but that isn't the point.)

After all, he was elevated to his position by man. Big deal.

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~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

The church always plays the devils advocate. Look at Galieo, etc. I am not surprised by their conservative stance on this issue.

Hah, not trying to insult, but the church playing devil's advocate strikes me as outrageously funny.

However, just because they have faith doesn't mean they can't use logic (after all, logic can support anything, depending on the original assumptions). The bit about Mars warming by a half a degree is interesting as well. The environmentalist movement has always struck me as highly sensationalist, especially the way it criticizes ninety percent of its opposers of being bought by oil companies.

There are explanations to global warming other than human effect. Perhaps both sides need to take a step back and reevaluate their positions.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle701154.ece

The church (in public) says global warming is anthropogenic, I believe.

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