I, for one, don't believe every single word, comma and period, that is written in the Torah, the progenitor of the Old Testament, and the entirety of "The Bible". I think some of the content is folklore, some oral history, some politics and political expediency, some romance and invention, and some fact.
Largely, "hearsay"....and we know how accurate "humans" can be. I think it's all a combination of direct experience, wisdom or common sense, and "faith", especially in a "force" or "deity" or power "greater than yourself"....because, let's face it...you don't know how many hairs are on your head, let alone how you wake yourself up in the morning, or how your body heals itself. It ain't you! You can believe otherwise....but what remains is, "it ain't you".
"The Lord works in mysterious ways, His wonders to unfold."
How does he do it, I can't tell you...but if you've ever witnessed Nature, the Sun, the Ocean, animals, plants, the seasons, physics, mathematics....then you have to believe in God. Simple.
And if you have a lick of common sense, then you have to be aware of "global warming"...if not, we know what's up.

Genesis, chapter 1:

"26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them."

Genesis, chapter 2:

" 15 The LORD God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the LORD God commanded the man, "You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die."

18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."

19 Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam [h] no suitable helper was found. 21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man's ribs [i] and closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib [j] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

23 The man said,
"This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called 'woman, [k] '
for she was taken out of man."


God DOES in fact create ADAM and EVE in both chapters one and two of Genesis.

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I'm not an atheist & have nothing invested in atheism. And atheism isn't a belief system.

If what you say is true, then Adam & Eve weren't the first people. Just sayin'. . . . And how can a member of the human race be a "subset" of that race? Are you saying in chapter one god created Homo sapiens sapiens, and then in chapter 2 god created Homo sapiens adamnevenus?

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Actually, the more I study the natural rhythms of the universe, the more convinced I'm becoming that a watchmaker is not needed. In fact, most scientists agree with me. I believe that I've that something like 93% of scientists are atheists.

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I have witnessed all of that. I would think most people have. No reason to believe in God there, especially physics and mathematics. Is it possible there is a God? Ya. Is there a God? Maybe. Is it possible that there is not God? Definitely.

Where is Eden mentioned in Chapter 1?

Who are these "other" humans created before Adam & Eve? And why do literalists then cling to the "fact" that Adam & Eve were the first humans? You're saying the earth was already populated with people before Adam & Eve, which flies in the face of most theological arguments.

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I apologize for making an incorrect assumption.

You and I are both "subsets" of the human race. Just like Silverados are subsets of Chevy trucks, and chevy is a subset of GM. Its a simple scientific term. Like normal. :azn:

I have no idea who they were. Unnamed masses. I'm not a theologian, so am unencumbered by standard teachings. I just read the Bible at face value, and find things that are written in there that dispute "common knowledge". Just like the 13 commandments. (Or maybe its 12).

Sometimes I feel like Maoist re-education camps might be good for this country. If we can't sway the Creationists themselves, maybe abducting their children and teaching them the right things would work.

In any case, this topic is about GLOBAL WARMING. Not EVOLUTION.

I won't debate with those who reject science. I find it incredibly ignorant and retarded. Anyone who wants to talk about this guy "changing his mind" about the global warming myth with me is welcome to do so.

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~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.