Global Warming? New Data Shows Ice Is Back

Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:55 AM

By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size


Are the world's ice caps melting because of climate change, or are the reports just a lot of scare mongering by the advocates of the global warming theory?


Scare mongering appears to be the case, according to reports from the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) that reveal that almost all the allegedly “lost” ice has come back. A NOAA report shows that ice levels which had shrunk from 5 million square miles in January 2007 to just 1.5 million square miles in October, are almost back to their original levels.


Moreover, a Feb. 18 report in the London Daily Express showed that there is nearly a third more ice in Antarctica than usual, challenging the global warming crusaders and buttressing arguments of skeptics who deny that the world is undergoing global warming.


The Daily express recalls the photograph of polar bears clinging on to a melting iceberg which has been widely hailed as proof of the need to fight climate change and has been used by former Vice President Al Gore during his "Inconvenient Truth" lectures about mankind’s alleged impact on the global climate.


Gore fails to mention that the photograph was taken in the month of August when melting is normal. Or that the polar bear population has soared in recent years.


As winter roars in across the Northern Hemisphere, Mother Nature seems to have joined the ranks of the skeptics.


As the Express notes, scientists are saying the northern Hemisphere has endured its coldest winter in decades, adding that snow cover across the area is at its greatest since 1966. The newspaper cites the one exception — Western Europe, which had, until the weekend when temperatures plunged to as low as -10 C in some places, been basking in unseasonably warm weather.


Around the world, vast areas have been buried under some of the heaviest snowfalls in decades. Central and southern China, the United States, and Canada were hit hard by snowstorms. In China, snowfall was so heavy that over 100,000 houses collapsed under the weight of snow.


Jerusalem, Damascus, Amman, and northern Saudi Arabia report the heaviest falls in years and below-zero temperatures. In Afghanistan, snow and freezing weather killed 120 people. Even Baghdad had a snowstorm, the first in the memory of most residents.


AFP news reports icy temperatures have just swept through south China, stranding 180,000 people and leading to widespread power cuts just as the area was recovering from the worst weather in 50 years, the government said Monday. The latest cold snap has taken a severe toll in usually temperate Yunnan province, which has been struck by heavy snowfalls since Thursday, a government official from the provincial disaster relief office told AFP.


Twelve people have died there, state Xinhua news agency reported, and four remained missing as of Saturday.


An ongoing record-long spell of cold weather in Vietnam's northern region, which started on Jan. 14, has killed nearly 60,000 cattle, mainly bull and buffalo calves, local press reported Monday. By Feb. 17, the spell had killed a total of 59,962 cattle in the region, including 7,349 in the Ha Giang province, 6,400 in Lao Cai, and 5,571 in Bac Can province, said Hoang Kim Giao, director of the Animal Husbandry Department under the Vietnamese Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development, according to the Pioneer newspaper.


In Britain the temperatures plunged to -10 C in central England, according to the Express, which reports that experts say that February could end up as one of the coldest in Britain in the past 10 years with the freezing night-time conditions expected to stay around a frigid -8 C until at least the middle of the week. And the BBC reports that a bus company's efforts to cut global warming emissions have led to services being disrupted by cold weather.


Meanwhile Athens News reports that a raging snow storm that blanketed most of Greece over the weekend and continued into the early morning hours on Monday, plunging the country into sub-zero temperatures. The agency reported that public transport buses were at a standstill on Monday in the wider Athens area, while ships remained in ports, public services remained closed, and schools and courthouses in the more severely-stricken prefectures were also closed.


Scores of villages, mainly on the island of Crete, and in the prefectures of Evia, Argolida, Arcadia, Lakonia, Viotia, and the Cyclades islands were snowed in.


More than 100 villages were snowed-in on the island of Crete and temperatures in Athens dropped to -6 C before dawn, while the coldest temperatures were recorded in Kozani, Grevena, Kastoria and Florina, where they plunged to -12 C.



If global warming gets any worse we'll all freeze to death.


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A .5 degrees+ cooling would kill milllions, and cause wars that could kill us all. The latest data over the short term already shows we are almost back to the early 80s globally for overall temperature, and millions of people are traped or having their houses caved in with that. I know your going to laugh and say how I don't have any clue on how climate works and this disputes nothing. But looking at history and other data shows that we humans be in big trouble. Why do I say that as your sitting there thinking to your selfs that your crazy. I'm saying its because the human race has exploded in size and scale since the end of the little ice age, and more or less has grown with the warming of the planet. A warmer planet means more food and more favorable enviroment for us. I'm not saying that 5-6 degree warming would not have its own programs, but I'm saying even the slightest cooling could cause much much more trouble then a slight warming ever could. The little ice age was caused by a solar min and now we are within one of those for 46 straight months we have been in one, the last 100-150 years since the dalton min of the mid 19th century this ranks up close to the longest since.

Data shows that we are now cooling down at a "fast rate" for the last 3-6 months. All over the world this has occured. If news out of Asia is true a large part of their food supply won't be there to feed hundreds of millions of people. If the current solar min keeps up and it appears to be doing just that, we can expect to see a slow cooling of the earths global temperature. "Some" solar cycle scienctis have even noted as early as the summer of 2006-2007 that solar cycle 24 was supposed to have started, but it never did. Yet again this December and Janaury. When will it go back into a upshoot? Or will it??? Believe it or not there is a chance of the next max being very weak infact. Which should scare the liviing hell out of any peace loving human. But of course call me a idiot and name call. Like that will help you if this does happen to us.

The Antarctic ice sheet are expanding and the sea ice nearly made a record this last winter. The Arctic is back to normal levels before all this global warming hype ever started.

But yes lets not discuse it, or keep dreaming in our little worlds. If it happens don't say I did not try to warn you.

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Between 1450-1750 that low activity period is call the little ice age by many.

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"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.


"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity; it must be known, that we are at all times ready for war" -- George Washington, Fifth Annual Address to Congress, December 13, 1793

Atmospheric warming, causes global cooling. Convection is an instrument of heat disapation. The atmosphere is a fluid dynamical system experiencing convection. Most of earths heat is trapped in the first ten thousand feet of atmosphere. Heating the atmosphere accelerates the flow rate and the 'extraction of heat' which is radiated off into space. It may prove an enormous blessing in disguise. Things will get really Wagnerian for a while.

Clearly, one winter with above average snowfall means the whole thing was nothing more than a bunch of pansy assed tree huggers doing their best to scare the rest of us into buying organic vegetables and drive electric cars.

The records of ONE winter, do not a climate make.

And siting NOAA's 'evidence' of variations between January and October OF THE SAME YEAR is absolutely meaningless.

There is a huge difference between WEATHER and CLIMATE.

You need to go buy yourself a college level text book and climatology and learn a thing or two so you'll know that what we are experiencing is exactly what is to be expected under a climate regime undergoing change.

It's not called Global climate change for nothing.

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Well they do say that ice that is millins years old is starting to melt

Yea, they have already said that ice levels would return to near normal but next summer it likely will be very low again.

"Newsmax" is not news.

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I have text books right next to me. In believe me I do know what climate is, it is long term, and also climate can be monthly or yearly. A whole lot about avg temperature and rainfall from the period you want to draw from. I could draw up the last 7-8 years and show that the earth has not warmed, but you would be in the right to note that 98 had a super el nino to discredit me. But anyways it is very interesting that the global avg temperature seems to have fallen off a cliff from ten years of records. I say that is caused by the low solar activity. It is weird that you people talk about having a open mind about things, but don't like it, if some one comes around and challeges it. It is not impossible that the climate, and which the sun brings most of the energy into the earth climate system to have a strong effect on our climate, that could lead to fast changes.

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"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.


"If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity; it must be known, that we are at all times ready for war" -- George Washington, Fifth Annual Address to Congress, December 13, 1793

My, that's dumb. Global warming causes global cooling, eh?
"Even if I'm wrong, I'm right!"
-pick your true believer, pick your mystical belief system.

You people may want to find some other faith. The weather gods seem a little too unpredictable for you.

Hey, look, that last millimeter destroys the whole trend!