Your entire position on this is what's pathetic. I didn't want to quote every post you made from the thread to provide context.

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~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Well, thank you for that. Whatever 'that' was.

I'll ask a few questions: Do you think the greenhouse effect is wrong? Do you deny that we are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

CO2 has been around since the first cell organism that breathed Oxygen. Its a cycle. You breath, You get CO2. Plants turn CO2 into Oxygen (photosynthesis). You see a pattern here?

The Earth's climate is the same way. It works on cycles. Few Hundred years ago we had this think called the Little Ice Age. This was caused by something we could not control.

Most of the Glaciers that are retreating today grew out of the Little Ice Age. So its a Natural Cycle earth is going through. Just as water levels are finally rising to pre-Little Ice Age levels.

The Global Warming mumbo jumbo.. is about fear and control.

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come on you know you wanna play football..

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You didn't answer the question. I know full well about the Little Ice Age.

Which aspect of the science do you disagree with? The greenhouse effect? Or that we are releasing CO2 into the atmosphere? CO2 has not recently exceeded 300 parts per million in the atmosphere, but currently it is at 380 parts per million. What does that tell you?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I did answer your question.

CO2 has been around since the first cell organism that breathed Oxygen. That would answer your CO2 and Greenhouse questions.

Now.. It tells me that deforestation has a larger effect then we realize. Once mass deforestation took place levels started to rise. But it does not lead to the jumping of conclusion by Scientist to say its because of over use of Fossil Fuel.

To give you an example of what I mean. Only 50% of the Greenhouse effect is from CO2. The other 50% is other things. While we are talking about cutting CO2.. We are talking about cutting Breathing of all living things. Thats what people miss.

If we didn't do deforestation at the rate we are this whole Greenhouse effect would be a non argument.

But Scientist don't tell you that. They say "Give us money to come up with biofuels" but those biofuels produce CO2 as well.

There are no solutions to "Global Warming" but Natural Solutions.. I.E. Planting trees in the deforested areas. An Acre of Trees can hold/remove 2.6 Tons of CO2 a year.

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"If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
H. L. Mencken

come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
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No, you didn't answer the question. Do you not believe in the greenhouse effect? Or do you deny that our use of fossil fuels has caused the CO2 levels to rise high than normal?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I did, Its just not the answer you wanted.

Greenhouse effect is non deniable, its part of our Atmosphere. As the Greenhouse gases keep us warm, if we had no Greenhouse.. it would be 33c colder on earth.

Nope, I reject Fossil Fuels is the cause. Its actually Deforestation that is the problem. But again... You missed that part because it didn't fit your yes or no answer. By the way.. Read my post again.. I certainly did answer them. Here are some examples....

"Now.. It tells me that deforestation has a larger effect then we realize. Once mass deforestation took place levels started to rise. But it does not lead to the jumping of conclusion by Scientist to say its because of over use of Fossil Fuel.

To give you an example of what I mean. Only 50% of the Greenhouse effect is from CO2. The other 50% is other things. While we are talking about cutting CO2.. We are talking about cutting Breathing of all living things. Thats what people miss.

If we didn't do deforestation at the rate we are this whole Greenhouse effect would be a non argument."

Hmm sounds like me accepting Greenhouse effect.. and why there is a rise of CO2.. I don't buy into the yes or no bs of the Global Warming fanatics.

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"If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
H. L. Mencken

come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

I don't disagree on both counts, but water vapor is much much more powerful of a green house gas. I think its foolish to discount the solar cycle and the suns output, because even the slightest cooling of our planet could kill tens of millions of people, as there will be less food to feed them. We must think about not only a warming but a cooling to.

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Not at all. I do it every time I breathe. Starting to understand why I think this is all crap? The earth is not a vengeful mother, but a statist government surely is. The only way you can bring your "carbon footprint" down to zero is to die. Something the environmentalists, who mostly came from various failed communist movements, have been prescribing for humanity for decades now. See a pattern here? I don't buy it. I don't like environmentalism or any of its more violent iterations. After all, I'm human. I want to live.

Anyway, in the past there has been a lot more CO2 in the atmosphere, to say the least, than there is presently and Gaia has rubbed along just fine. The collectivists ascribe too much to Man and his effect on the universe. Stop worrying about the weather gods; they don't care about you.