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02-12-2008, 11:05 PM
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I try to recycle as much as possible. I am going to be driving relatively soon, and I will still ride my bike around a lot more than using a car.
I also use those little curly lights. 
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02-13-2008, 02:44 AM
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We recycle as much as we can. City picks up the recycle bins every two weeks, I take the cardboard to a school location, and I sell the beer and soda cans when I get enough to get a few bucks. Problem is, the best price is at a place that has an army surplus store, and I often spend the can money there before I get home. Otherwise it gets spent on more beer!
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02-13-2008, 03:22 AM
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I don't recycle at all. I think it's waste of resources.
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02-13-2008, 05:05 AM
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Trust me, I'm a socialist! There's power in a factory,power in the land, power in the hand of the worker. But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand, there is power in a union. The union forever defending our rights, down with the blackleg, workers unite. To our brothers and our sisters in many far off lands, there is power in a union. Money speaks for money, the devil for his own. - Billy Bragg
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02-13-2008, 01:18 PM
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Yeah, people in my city are sort of forced to in a way.
You have to buy city garbage bags (which can be found at every grocery store), but they're very small, very weak, and add up to a lot of money overtime. The city won't collect your garbage unless its in a city bag. But at the same time the county supplies as many recycling bins as you want free of charge.
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02-13-2008, 01:30 PM
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Some costs that come to mind: 1. federal subsidies, which are upwards of $10 billion per year. 2. local subsidies, which come from contractual arrangements with local governments. 3. subscription cost, which is paid for monthly by homeowners for recycling service. 4. zero reduction on consumer products. The point of recycling was to reduce the cost of production, and therefore the cost to the consumer, by abrogating the process of virgin material production, and replacing it with a more cost-effective secondary production. This never happened. On average, the cost of recycling is three-fold that of the cost of burying garbage. And that doesn't include the burden to the consumer in regards to lack of decrease on consumer products, something that we were promised when the recycling movement started. Additionally, there's no point to recycling these resources. They're plentiful resources. Paper comes from tree farms, so we'll never run out of that. We grow 22 million acres of forest each year, and we harvest 15 million acre. If my calculations are correct, that's a 7 million acre yield. Glass comes from silica dioxide, which is a fancy word for sand. I have a sneaking suspicion that's probably the most abundant mineral on the planet. Plastic is made from petroleum byproducts. Today more petroleum reserves are being discovered than are being used. And plastics can now also be synthesized from farm products.
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02-13-2008, 04:02 PM
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The point of recycling is to avoid a lot of waste, not because we think we're going to run out of things.
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02-13-2008, 04:07 PM
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The Local Authority iun my area, like Vivs', supplies (free of charge) 3 bins for waste, 1 for normal household waste (empty cans mainly, in my case), 1 for paper and 1 for garden waste. I recycle glass and plastic bottles.
Incidentally Michael, one of our local supermarkets has started using biodegradable plastic bags. Quote:
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02-13-2008, 04:19 PM
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air. "Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder. "I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up." The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation. "Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."
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02-13-2008, 04:21 PM
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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air. "Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder. "I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up." The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation. "Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."
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