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Old 11-27-2007, 09:34 PM
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Here is how I see the rationality behind Vegetarianism.

People eat animals and think nothing of it, however when proposed with the idea of eating a human they sudder and claim that eating a human is "wrong".

However, a human is an animal just like the deer, quail, and cows we eat everyday.

Therefore I consider it a contradiction to be completely fine with eating an animal and calling it "wrong" to eat another human.

Either those who eat meat should have no problem with eating a human or they are irrational because of contradiction.

Thus because I cannot eat another human and call it "right", I see no point in eating any other animal and being okay with it.
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Eating a human is your same species and with creatures with our intellect it is wrong, but with eating animals that are "lower" than us and it can be justified.
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Why not? How many animals eat regularly as a cannibal? How many kill other animals for their standard food?
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Yup, although I do know some vegan people. Some meat I can eat, some I can't. It just depends.
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Eating a human is your same species and with creatures with our intellect it is wrong, but with eating animals that are "lower" than us and it can be justified.
Lower in intellect?

We can only go so far as to determine the mindset of an animal. Since we have not been animals ourselves we cannot discern their thought processes and therefore it is erronious to claim them as "lesser".

Animals seem to have a certain sense that is beyond humans in many cases of danger or otherwise.
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Eating a human is your same species and with creatures with our intellect it is wrong, but with eating animals that are "lower" than us and it can be justified.
And that is why God put Man (Adam) in charge of animals "lower" than us.
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That's called instinct, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.
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Ugh....

I ate Chinese for dinner.
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That's called instinct, but it has nothing to do with intelligence.
As far as science has been able to discern we call it instict but who are we to say that there is not something deeper going on in the brain of an animal than we have already decided.

It takes one to know one, if you haven't been an animal you cannot tell me that they are instinct machines incapable of love and affection as well has higher thought process.
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I have a great dog. I think he is really smart. But:

1. He has yet to figure out how to feed himself. His food storage container is right next to his food bowl. He sees me scoop food from the container into the bowl twice each day.
2. He has yet to figure out how to let himself out. He sees me open the door for him several times a day. I think he tries to blame it on a lack of opposable thumbs.
3. The words "filet mignon" mean nothing to him. "Milk bone" sends him into an absolute tizzy.
4. I accidentally knock my dinner plate to the floor. The meat and bread disappear down his throat. The veggies I have to clean up. (I said he was smart!!)

The basic communal nature of man precludes us from turning on each other as a source of food. If a society had to compete within itself to avoid being eaten by its own members, a civil existence would have been impossible.

Why am I debating this? Sorry, but the premise is just plain silly.
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